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#1 ·
While shooting this weekend, I had a GT pin nock disintegrate as i released and my bow essentially dry fired. SCARED THE PAJEBAS out of me to say the least!

Because I hold the bow very lightly, the bow launched out of my hand, and luckily landed in the grass. I think it may have landed on one of the limb tips & bounced, because the string had flung off both limbs & was laying beside the bow, the arrow was laying there too.

Needless to say, it shook me up because I've never had this happen in decades of shooting a bow. (maybe i've been lucky?). In my experience, if a nock is damaged, i can tell when i place it on the string.... that wasn't the case on this one - it snapped on solidly, and didn't rotate easily like they do if the base is cracked.

I'm pretty sure the riser (25" Gillo G1) is ok, but what about the Uukha EX1 EVO2 limbs? I've looked at 'em pretty close ... is there something specific I should look for to ensure they're still intact before restringing? Are the limb tips more susceptible to damage, or the ILF limb fittings in these situations?

thanks in advance for any feedback.

jc
 
#2 ·
JCB,

I feel your anxiety!, ironically happened three times to me this year. I'm still shooting my old inventory of swaged aluminum shafts. For 40 yrs I never glued on a nock, just twisted them on to the correct orientation. Shot that way with both Compound + Trad bows until this year?.
Don't know if my nock inventory is getting old + brittle happened with three different brands of nock's, always on the release and split in half?. Found that unusual.
If you were going to experience a dry fire, I think you had yours with some of the best constructed limb's available.
If there is no obvious raised splinters not nick's in the finish or on the edges, actual raised splinters I say your good to go!.
Mine happened with conventional lam limb's, checked out each time (not all the same mfg.) but my sphincter is still puckered!.
 
#3 ·
Just visually inspect the Uukhas carefully and then draw them a little at a time listening for any noises. Chances are they are just fine. I did something similar a couple of weeks ago with BF Extreme limbs. I let them go at 3/4 draw by accident without an arrow. They were fine.
 
#4 ·
. . . you needed a new pair of trousers . . . rrright !

(. . . I’m glad that things worked out . . . )

regards,

John
 
#5 ·
. . . you needed a new pair of trousers . . . rrright !

(. . . I'm glad that things worked out . . . )

regards,

John
Let's just say that I'm glad I hadn't bathed yet that day and not go into details! ;)

I remember standing there just thinking "what that %^$%^ just happened?" I was actually kind of scared to look at the bow at first. Thought about stringing it back up & continuing to shoot - ya know, get back on the horse that just threw ya? Then chickened out! Put that one away, and got an old wooden "friend" out that hadn't seen much love lately and strung it up instead. Even that first arrow was a little daunting!

I really like the Uukhas... really don't want to think about buying something else. I'm hoping their as "bomb-proof" as others have suggested.

thanks fellas for the feedback so far.
jc
 
#7 ·
I been lucky as well. Got some old metal arrows from brother-in-law. Had two nocks (BJ’s) split. I changed them all. But those GT nocks an’it 40 years old. Wonder if it experienced a hit you may not have seen?
 
#8 ·
I'm glad you are ok JC - - & bow too
 
#10 · (Edited)
Check the tiller a few times over the next few months. Take an absolute tiller measurement for the top and bottom. If is changes then you should be concerned. Also, if the bow starts to perform differently. If it gets noisy or if the tune seems to change. You are probably okay, but these are some of the signs of a bow that is starting to fail. The fallacy is that you can see it. Delaminations happen on the inside of the bow. I had a bow explode on me. Some early signs were that the speed became very inconsistent and the bow became noisy. I raised the brace height and the bow quieted down and the speed stabilized. A month later it exploded. There were no external symptoms. The bow didn't creak or make noise other than being noisier when I shot it.
 
#11 ·
Update - close inspection last night shows no visible sign of damage. The only thing I noticed was what appears to be the normal sign of wear in clear coat where limbs contact the ILF fitting. THANK GOODNESS I wasn't shooting on the asphalt driveway!! (and yes, a sling of some sort is on the radar! ;-)

I confirmed tiller (even) and set the brace height (8 1/4"), and pulled the bow quite a few times.... no creaking/etc. I had just shot the bow over the chrony a week or so ago, so I i know the velocity i was getting & I'll be able to see how it compares this afternoon.

Thanks guys!
jc
 
#13 ·
I discovered I was having an issue when I took a chrono to practice through. My bow normally shot a consistent 205, rarely deviating my more than 1 fps. I started getting everything from 192 to 205. The bow was also more noisy than usual. I raised the brace height to address the noise (a brace height that was fine for over the past year) and the bow quieted and the speed returned to a consistent 205. A month later I was shooting a FITA target shoot when it exploded on the line. I had just broken my personal best at 90 meters and I was 11 arrows at 70 meters from a first day personal best. The upper limb exploded and the limb tip missed my eye by an inch. It was a travel tournament which was over when my bow failed. I did not bring a backup bow since I was leaving from the tournament for a week long vacation, which in this case, started a day early.

As far as tiller, you will see many bows that are close to failure display tiller problems as the failing limbs no longer returns to it's normal position at brace.
 
#14 ·
Hank - when it exploded, were you injured? I can only barely imagine that experience!

Thinking this through - maybe a good idea to leave the bow strung for a while? I typically leave the bow strung when I'm acclimating a new string & setting BH, but then once it settles, I'll unstring if I don't plan to shoot for a few days.

jc
 
#15 ·
The bow missed my left eye by an inch. When I say explosion, that is what it sounded like. It stopped the shooting line at a Star rated State FITA event. Star FITA's qualify for national ranking points. It was my second bow explosion, but first with a modern bow. I had an English longbow explode into three sharp shards. Two of the shards hit my eyebrows, an inch above each eye. The other went over my head. It was a bow that was given to me. I strung it and was carefully working it in taking short draws and increasing draw lengths slowly until I got to full draw. It exploded on the last draw when I finally decided to take it to anchor.

Since that time I have tested old bows on my draw board. I would rather have them explode there rather than in my face. I have a 32 inch draw which does not help.
 
#18 ·
Happy to report - the Uukha's have survived to fling arrows another day!!

I left the bow strung overnight for a few days and confirmed BH & tiller - both held solidly where previously set. CHECK! And then I pulled out the chrony & (cautiously....) confirmed speed was still where it was a week/so ago - CHECK! No creaking, no noises! LIFE IS GOOD!

FYI for you stats junkies - these are medium 40# Ex1Evo2 on a 25" G1, at my 28 1/4" draw, here's what I'm getting. Current arrow setup: GT Ultralight 28 3/4" shafts, GT pin/nano nock, GT insert, 3x Ozark 3" Target Max 3D feathers (still liking these feathers! Holding up very well!).
Total weight 3 different arrows (grs): 307.4, 308.4, 307.0

LO 200.7
HI 204.5
Avg 202.0
ES 3.80
SD 1.00
202.1 201.8 201.4 200.7 201.4 201.3 204.5 201.8 201.9 202.8

I can live with that level of consistency.

jc
 
#19 ·
SEEMS like pretty good speeds to me, for close to 8 gpp.
GLAD it all survived and you're unscathed, too!
 
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#21 ·
FYI - i dropped Uukha support an email & had a nice reply back in less than 24hrs. They thanked me for my confidence in their product, and answered a few questions I had on their limbs. No 1 question of course being: ARE MY LIMBS STILL SAFE TO SHOOT? lol
The answer was - YES.

So the only true casualty was just that single nock. (and however many heart beats i missed following... ;-)

Thanks to all that replied.

jc