[Remote]

Yeah, I don't really know how to describe the grip. I just think it feels like a nice grip shape that's been stretched longer. I don't hate it but I don't particularly like it either. If I can't get used to it, I might try some adhesive leather or a wrap or something.

Happens to me often. Tennis wrap has made a grip I could not tolerate perfect, as in ideal, more than once. You see it on bows of some very good archers, and I'd wager not just for anti-slip.

 

[Jim Casto Jr]

Measuring the grips is an interesting exercise, but I’ll have to leave it to you fella's to tell me what it means. I do like the appearance of the grip on the WF riser on the left better but they feel the same when shooting.

23” White Feather Firefinch on the left; 23" Deerseeker on the right.

 

[Tortoise]

Measuring the grips is an interesting exercise, but I’ll have to leave it to you fella's to tell me what it means. I do like the appearance of the grip on the WF riser on the left better but they feel the same when shooting.

23” White Feather Firefinch on the left; 23" Deerseeker on the right.

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Jim, I think your picture might illustrate what I'm feeling. If you compare the throat of the grip on both and think of it as a part of a circle, the radius of the circle looks (and to me, feels) much larger on the Deerseeker. I suppose the result is that it just doesn't wrap around my hand as closely.

 

[Remote]

Jim, I think your picture might illustrate what I'm feeling. If you compare the throat of the grip on both and think of it as a part of a circle, the radius of the circle looks (and to me, feels) much larger on the Deerseeker. I suppose the result is that it just doesn't wrap around my hand as closely.

Yeah, that makes sense. Jim's picture helps. When it's too open like that it's harder to locate the thumb and can make it easy to slide up and choke. I would probably have to tennis tape that below the throat.

 

[Tortoise]

Yeah, that makes sense. Jim's picture helps. When it's too open like that it's harder to locate the thumb and can make it easy to slide up and choke. I would probably have to tennis tape that below the throat.

Thank you, you described it better than I could. That seems to be what's happening. I'm probably going to keep testing a few different grip techniques this week and try the wrap if it doesn't work out. I'm thinking a higher wristed grip with pressure focused at the throat of the grip might actually be more repeatable for me than what I tried last time.

 

[pipcount]

I am going to do following. Keep in mind I dont shoot off the shelf, and I want the deepest part of the grip radius up close to shelf to help me use a rest while keeping arrow near top of my gripping hand.

• Flatten out shelf to lower everything much closer to the grip radius. Simply run over tablesaw to cut flat and lower, but at same centershot as original.
• Cut the radius higher up towards shelf on grip with a rasp/file
• Build up grip a bit lower down, again this should help move radius of grip towards shelf.

Unrelated, but similar- likely to inset my shibuya rest into wood. The darn thing's pivot sticks out quite a bit. But has been in production for decades, likely to continue so, and when I build an inset into a riser I want a LONG lifecycle.

 

[DDD]

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I like the grips. It's closer to Hoyt Ergo.

 

[Remote]

So Jim how come you sold yours? That was a quick fling!

 

[Jim Casto Jr]

I haven't sold it. It's in the classifieds along with the White Featrher Firefinch. Which ever one goes first I'll keep the other (maybe). I don't need both of them and I thought I'd use one for my primary 3D riser this summer, but I've decided to use my metal riser.

No issues with either. Part of what I like to do is, buy, try and sell and hopefully not lose too much.

 

[Remote]

I haven't sold it. It's in the classifieds along with the White Featrher Firefinch. Which ever one goes first I'll keep the other (maybe). I don't need both of them and I thought I'd use one for my primary 3D riser this summer, but I've decided to use my metal riser.

No issues with either. Part of what I like to do is, buy, try and sell and hopefully not lose too much.

Fair enough. Also am admitting to myself I've entered the hoarding phase. Limbs, bows, risers on walls and floor. Time for a bit of a clean out.

 

[JPH]

Also am admitting to myself I've entered the hoarding phase.

This is so easy to be guilty of! It’s crept up on me a bunch of times!

 

[Remote]

Is there anyone here that is really happy with their Deerseeker riser, or did that buying fever all end up a bit meh?

Asking for a friend. Also me.

 

[Jim Casto Jr]

Is there anyone here that is really happy with their Deerseeker riser...

Well now.... that question probably needs to be qualified a bit. How about we say something closer to.... For the money I spent and the quality I got, I'm really happy with this riser.

If I was a really good shot and engaged in serious competition I'd most likely be more satisfied with a Mins, etal.

No one is offering a wood/phenolic riser, especially the 23" and 25", for the cost of the Deerseeker.

 

[JBOGG]

I’m very happy with mine so far. I have the Pat Noris 19 inch riser. I really like the looks of it, and I think it’s a good value. It works just fine shooting off the shelf for me. I’m strictly a hunter/backyard shooter with a little bit of 3-D shooting with the club. Hoping to put some Uukha Gobis on it soon.

 

[GABbow]

I too have the 19” Pat Norris. Even though it’s my first ILF riser, and I paid another $100 more then the Deerseeker, this is a quality riser.

 

[Jim Casto Jr]

Thought some of you may be interested in where I am now with the 23" riser--or not. As noted in the pictures, I found the grip on the 23" model put my hand way too low on the riser and that left the shelf way too high--not acceptable. This riser felt nothing like the 19" model I had; it was fine.

So... I ground off the lower belly of the riser, up to where I wanted the bottom of the grip to be, filled the rest of the grip area with epoxy (stained black) and finished the grip to suit my hand once cured. Well... then, I find the shelf to be too high, so I cut it down about 3/8". Once all the refinish was done I put one of those Wilson tennis racket wraps on the grip...
... and of course, I added a stabilizer bushing.

Now the thing is as near perfect as any riser I've ever owned.

 

[DDD]

Lol, I had the same thoughts.
DDD

 

[Remote]

Thought some of you may be interested in where I am now with the 23" riser--or not. As noted in the pictures, I found the grip on the 23" model put my hand way too low on the riser and that left the shelf way too high--not acceptable. This riser felt nothing like the 19" model I had; it was fine.

So... I ground off the lower belly of the riser, up to where I wanted the bottom of the grip to be, filled the rest of the grip area with epoxy (stained black) and finished the grip to suit my hand once cured. Well... then, I find the shelf to be too high, so I cut it down about 3/8". Once all the refinish was done I put one of those Wilson tennis racket wraps on the grip...
... and of course, I added a stabilizer bushing.

Now the thing is as near perfect as any riser I've ever owned.

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I think you should send your modifications to Deerseeker. Now that you have made them, and with this comparison photo, I suspect they enlarged the 19" grip, which would only fit a monster of a hand. Your mods make sense to these eyes, even if only looking at a picture.

 

[Jim Casto Jr]

I can only imagine what they did with the 25" riser.

All the grips need to be the same as on the 19" riser.

 

[Jim Casto Jr]

As Remote suggested, I sent Deerseeker an email suggesting they change the grips on their wood risers to duplicate the grip on the 19" riser along with a link to this page of the thread.

Got this reply at 7:52 p.m. this evening:

"Hi, Mr. Casto

Thanks a lot for the sharing

Our 25" ILF riser did not come with a comfortable grip feeling, we admit this point. Our company has changed the program, and made as the same as the 19" riser....

Best Regards
Peter"