Thanks for the pics, looking forward to hearing how they shoot. My opinion on looks, the Vanquish wins hands down. I've held a prototype TR7 and it looks/feels all sharp edges and squared off. Maybe its barebones function, but looks play a part in marketing for sure.
Not sure if the limb lateral adjustment are visible in the pictures, the sky uses an aluminum dovetail block like Morrison and spigarelli
The vanquish is completely different almost like a blend of bernadini and pse xappeal and adjusts from the limb butt notch and not the dove tail.
Now for me and shooting both bows, this is personal just like grips so how a bow reacts on my release may differ from some shooting say 3under, I shoot split.
The vanquish on the shot is a slight jump forward completely vertical no tip back or forward.
This is completely bare riser only the Mathews weight in the riser.
The 4oz bstinger weight is how I prefer to shoot it and groups better for me.
The TR7 on the shot for me it tips back slightly with the 5/8# bare bow weight.
I made screw in weights that add on to the lower weight on each side.
Oddly enough I shoot the sky better without extra weight, only the 5/8# weight added.
I have yet to shoot scores for both that's going to take more time down the road.
To date the sky has shot better for me by 1 point to 11 points between my ionx and my later spig bb. That said I matched it the other day with the vanquish on my league makeup score, on the second day of shooting it.
Steve has been working on his grip in the vanquish trying different hand and finger position (correct me if I'm wrong Steve). For me it only took half a score to get my hand position that I like and completely satisfied with
I will say this if you grip your riser on the release of the arrow you will have a hard time with this riser.
I really look forward to getting to know the vanquish more
Here is something Steve pointed out to me before I received my vanquish.
The tiller bolts move to accommodate the limb tiller/preload, or to sit flush on the limb, not on the edge of the limb butt at minimum limb adjustment.
The limb will be flush with the limb from maximum to minimum limb preload
This is weight taken off and shows a gap (for picture purposes)
This shows tiller/preload bolt moved back to show the movement.
Very nice feature, and out of many bows I've owned none of them did this.
Jon, the only weight I had in it (was) the Mathews weight that comes with their newer risers (edit just to clarify the Mathews weight does not come with the riser. that you can get from a Mathews dealer) the way I put it it could be miss construed as the weight comes with the riser. It doesn't.
It shot with a slight thump forward, did not tip forward or back on the shot, perfectly vertical for me.
You are correct on the oly riser statement, they are designed as an Olympic style riser. for me this is more barebow riser than any barebow specific riser I've owned hands down, this includes spig bb, 650 club, bernadini nilo 23", 23" zenit, not a barebow but ionx with a pound of weight tied to the riser.
To answer your question it shoots barebow necked extremely well.
I could swear it was designed as a barebow.
honestly I don't like the look of the black thunder. Without having any around for thousands of miles it's hard to try any riser, let alone a riser from Germany.
I had my tr7 on order when I seen the vanquish.
Both tr7 and vanquish was instant (had to have) eventually given the cost.
Yeah it's that simple
Will do, I think I know what your asking. Granted the vanquish is an inch longer than the tr7.
It's going to be a day or so, have to paint the range floor tomorrow, then class tomorrow night.