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The proof that it is impossible to think of two things at once (particularly archery) . . .

"Human multitasking is an apparent human ability to perform more than one task, or activity, over a short period (1 hour). An example of multitasking is taking phone calls while typing an email and reading a book. Multitasking can result in time wasted due to human context switching and apparently causing more errors due to insufficient attention. Studies have shown that it is impossible to focus on more than one task at a time. "

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_multitasking

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. . . think of this multitasking sequence in terms the archery . . .

to wit :

(Shi) - Start

Turn to target and establish stance . . .

- keep hands at waist, bow tucked under arm
- face the target for the entire end
- keep shooting stance for the entire end

(Da) - Nock

Load arrow without losing sight of target . . .

- direct eyes to the target (do not look at hands)
- nock swiftly (for advanced) ; nock slowly (for beginners)
- use bow hand index/middle fingers to hold arrow
- use draw hand to grasp to string
- allow movement to come to completion before proceeding

(Shen) - Estimation

Prepare for the shot physically and mentally . . .

- raise bow slightly
- finalize bow hand grip (place fingers under the arrow)
- settle down shoulder blades (no hunching)
- estimate position of target with your vision
- allow movement to come to completion before proceeding

(Gou) - Full Draw

Settle down shoulder blades for a brisk/efficient draw . . .

- settle down shoulder blades before pull begins
- do not hunch the shoulders
- use pushdown rowing motion of elbows for efficiency
- place bow hand in final aiming position

(Yun) - Balance

Increase back effort, decrease arm effort . . .

- reduce tension in wrists and hands
- revolve and retract shoulder blades together
- keep shoulder blades settle down

(Qing) - Lightness

Expand draw length linearly towards release . . .

- expand = move back hand away from front hand steadily & continuously
- do not "hold still"
- expand more slowly to improve physically conditioning
- release only upon reaching full draw length
- follow through naturally : same expansion before/during/after release

(Zhu) - Focus

Keep eyes of the target . . .

- allow follow through to come to completion
- maintain emotional composure regardless of hit or miss
- reset hands at waist for next shot cycle
- remember to breath
- for remaining arrows, repeat sequence starting from (Da) - Nock

(Courtesy of Justin Ma)

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THE NEED TO WIN

When an archer is shooting for nothing He has all his skill.
If he shoots for a brass buckle
He is already nervous.

If he shoots for a prize of gold He goes blind
Or sees two targets*
He is out of his mind!

His skill has not changed. But the prize Divides him. He cares.
He thinks more of winning
Than of shooting-

And the need to win Drains him of power.

[xix. 4·]

From here, the Way of Chang Tzu :

http://terebess.hu/zen/mesterek/MertonChuangTzu.pdf

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Thanks John I have this book marks.

Best part is not hold still. However, you can hold with a float. Key is floating pattern works. Lots of videos and writing about this. I study my float. If I am not happy I let down.
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Interesting. These guys are basically training intuitive archery where even the smallest thing like the way you point the toes counts in the whole picture as integral part of the aiming system is sold as multitasking. No, this is not multitasking. Is the order in which the pieces of puzzle should be laid to get 1 task done.
 

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Ingrain how to drive a car, shoot a bow, draw a pistol, throw a punch without thinking.

Then you are free to talk while you drive, aim while shooting and let the SC run the sequence, and draw and shoot while seeing the front sight and hitting, overhand right to the temple without thinking of anything.
 

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Sam, I did it your way and guess what I got? TP. Why? Well I try to push my scores up. This caused me to want to think about these small things. I could hunt just fine. But not compete at a very high level. in one season I went from champ to chump.
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Thanks John I have this book marks.

Best part is not hold still. However, you can hold with a float. Key is floating pattern works. Lots of videos and writing about this. I study my float. If I am not happy I let down.
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Dan -

A Simple Shooting Protocol (video):


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I always chewed tobacco, shot 5.56mm and 45acp while clearing rooms purdy well?

Long to fall DDD. If you shot indoor like me up is all I can do. It don't get much worse.
 

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Ingrain how to drive a car, shoot a bow, draw a pistol, throw a punch without thinking.

Then you are free to talk while you drive, aim while shooting and let the SC run the sequence, and draw and shoot while seeing the front sight and hitting, overhand right to the temple without thinking of anything.
Sam -

You are still thinking of activities

and not

non-activity ( wu wei ). . .

See description here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_wei

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The Archer

Perfect compassion is devoid of any attachment.

Being in the Moment is the action of perfect compassion.

The bow has no string.

The arrow is not to be found.

As long as I remain the archer

Such a thing cannot be achieved.

© Salskov~Iversen 2013

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Well, its means you can do several things at once shooting. Your mind is doing really hard target discrimination ie (not killing COB's, good guys, Gs whatever). I'de prolly be dead if I couldn't do some fashion of muiti tasking I reckon.
 

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Being in the moment it doesn't mean you are doing just one thing. It means you treat the situation you are into as is, and you solve it based on your skills.
 

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I have always made my best shots when approaching it from the "no mind" angle. In this state you are not self aware yet hyper aware simultaneously. Everything clicks. The challenge is reaching this state more than just once in a while.
 

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It is something that can be learnt. You have to find the right trigger for it. Japanese have the "etiquette" (bow to the Shrine, bow to Sensei and bow to the weapon) that actually acts as a way to empty your mind and prepare yourself for the "moment". It's a preparation for next thing, the practice without having the other life interfering. Some guys can do this, actually using the assembling of their takedown bow as trigger.
 

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What I think is impossible is...

"For any one human mind to comprehend how the vast multitude of other human minds work let alone attempt to define the capacities or limitations of such."
 

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Jinks, I know one thing. If you put your mind into something and you have the right guidance, nothing is impossible*. I said guidance, not recipe.
"imposible like in things you think you can't do - in the natural limits of you, for sure.
 

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I always chewed tobacco, shot 5.56mm and 45acp while clearing rooms purdy well?

Long to fall DDD. If you shot indoor like me up is all I can do. It don't get much worse.
Nope, western bow hunter. Indoor, what's that. Lol.
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