I ended up going for ramer. I did get a glimpse of the beauty of asl shooting yesterday and probably would have kept it but the guy really wanted it back. Before I told him why I didn't like it he told me why. He said his morningstar feels heavier than it is. ExACTLY! I felt like I was just hitting a wall that I could not pull through cleanly...he likes that feeling and assured me the ramer feels lighter than its draw weight