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Anyone here with direct experience of these limbs? The geometry looks good, for a conventional curve (which I prefer).

If not, how about the X9s?

Looking for limbs for a Black Bear warf (21") project. An experiment, I'm wanting to keep cost down, and where I am rn I can get the Sanlidas real cheap. Also looking at the Akusta limbs.
 

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Kinetic Vaultage is a fairly reasonable limb with excellent manners.
Cross carbon 70/36 were just 182 grams each limb.
Smooth and very good speed, quiet as well.
I am sure there are a couple Chinese made limbs falling out of the same press and having different labels afterwards.
 

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Kinetic Vaultage is a fairly reasonable limb with excellent manners.
Cross carbon 70/36 were just 182 grams each limb.
Smooth and very good speed, quiet as well.
I am sure there are a couple Chinese made limbs falling out of the same press and having different labels afterwards.
And so down that rabbit hole I went.

It would seem Kinetic are a house brand of SSA, a Belgian distributor, whom presently have much of their kit produced by Sanlida. W&W used to make them. It's not implausible the X10s are the same well-spoken limb. On paper they look to be.


Merlin have them at my target of 66/44 for the very polite price of 170 sterling:


Thanks for this. Added to my short list!
 

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FWIW I found that Kaminski has reviewed the 'Sanlida Miracle X10 kit' (Oly) which has these limbs. He seems to like it, saying that the bow as a whole is properly dead in hand on shot and has a lot of whack. You can get these limbs for EUR225 or so (parity with USD these days):


Can find nothing at all about the X9's, at least in a language I understand.
 

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I personally would not do business with a company that copies everything from everyone. Stealing designs isn't right especially flat out copies. Look at the Lancaster archery star line lineup of limbs great for the price.
 

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I personally would not do business with a company that copies everything from everyone. Stealing designs isn't right especially flat out copies. Look at the Lancaster archery star line lineup of limbs great for the price.
How are they, in any shape or form, stealing?
 

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I personally would not do business with a company that copies everything from everyone. Stealing designs isn't right especially flat out copies. Look at the Lancaster archery star line lineup of limbs great for the price.
You mean like how Hoyt stole Border's use of bias carbon?
 

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These are the same people that are making the fake hoyt satori risers, fake hoyt xceed risers, fake morrison risers, fake tempest riser, etc.
Sanlida? No they're not. You may be confusing them with Top Archery, TBOW, et al.

Happy to see some links to prove that wrong however.
 

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Went ahead and bought the 40lb mediums, to pair up with my Black Bear warf (~44lb) but also to play with on a 17" riser (~48lb). Will report!
 

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Got the limbs. Very nicely put together. Feel and look decent, no complaints. The supplier only had them in 38lb meds (68" on 25" riser) yet they scale in much higher than that. They should be 44lb on my 19" but come to ~49lb at my 28.7" DL. Decided I'll keep them regardless, putting it down to a sticker issue.
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Bad pic, but here they are on my 19" F261, hotel room door (new lower paracord silencer going in). Aligned perfectly from the get go. They feel good to draw, but even at 48-49lb on my draw they feel as heavy or heavier than my Nika N3's on the same riser, at 52lb OTF. Not surprising given how smooth the N3's are.

Nonetheless, I like how conventional they feel. Looking fwd to putting an arrow over them when this next leg of travel is done.

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These are destined for my Black Bear warf, perhaps with a dip. Don't have the BB on hand right now however. Hope it works out.
 

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Any chance on limb and tip weights?
Thanks
I'm getting 2622gn/169g on the lower - about the same as a Border Hex 6.

Still don't see how to meaningfully weigh the tip. I do not see how it can be done without cutting it off! If I use the method shown to me in the Nika N3 thread, I get 36gn 69gn for the 'tip' which seems very wrong.
 

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Tip or most part is working.
Better to hang one end, like you would for engine rotation assembly balance.
However this way is close.
Steve aka Hank and I keep this data on all bows we test.
I am not sure yet. But heavy tips like heavy arrow and light favor light arrow. You see this in golf clubs, Batt, so on.
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Have you had time to mess with much w/ the BB and x10's ? From posts and your username your global. Just wondered your current thoughts on the x10's ? Any regrets ? Would you buy them again but in longs ?
On your post 11 here you mentioned about dipping them for hunting I' am guessing? Is that something you do yourself or send out ? Very interested in " dipping " process , ideas. Stay safe . Thanks in advance for your thoughts and answers on the Sanlida x10's .
 

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Have you had time to mess with much w/ the BB and x10's ? From posts and your username your global. Just wondered your current thoughts on the x10's ? Any regrets ? Would you buy them again but in longs ?
On your post 11 here you mentioned about dipping them for hunting I' am guessing? Is that something you do yourself or send out ? Very interested in " dipping " process , ideas. Stay safe . Thanks in advance for your thoughts and answers on the Sanlida x10's .
TBH I wonder if I didn't mess up. They're very good limbs in a conservative Oly sort of way, but don't hold against my Nika N3 mediums for speed and stability, which on my riser length of choice are just 3-4lbs heavier. Definitely feel like high end Oly limbs though, SF, Wiawis etc.

To get the X10s nice and matte or satin, and to do it right, will mean sanding the gloss back. Reading around, dipping will add weight to the limbs (paint) and risk cracking down the road no matter how well they're done. Putting limb huggers on them still won't take care of the gloss around the limb butts.

I bought some 45lb Buck Trail 3k carbon woods for next to nothing, arriving soon to my current location (France). This is for a competition setup. Nice and matte black already. If they're good or close to the X10's I'll sell the X10s to a good Oly home.
 
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