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it may have changed but it was not presented as a percent, just a 12# limit over marked weight.
Sorry Gil I haven’t had time to chrony them… I do see your point though, with the weight would lighter limbs be exponentially slower with the weight of limb vs the poundage…I’m not sure about it… I do know that my sight picture is either the same, or really close because it didn’t take me long to get dialed In with these….

I’m shooting a 30.5” axis 400, standard HIT insert, 40g ethics archery SS impact collar, 200g point, 3x3” feather, makes a 555g arrow…shooting 3 under… I dont really know what my short gaps are, 10-25 yards I shoot from learned sight picture…. But my point on is 40 yards, which sounds right for me and equipment I use.

All my hunting bows have been from 50-53, 500g-600g arrows and my point on has always been 39-44 yards..

My wines are prolly a few FPS faster than. The C1, but C1 are much more quiet…and just as smooth…Nika supplied me with the limb grove silencers as well, but I haven’t installed them. I dont like things on my limbs, except for spray paint and blood.
 
I am looking to experiment on some inexpensive lighter # limbs. I would be interested to see the chrono results and specs of the set up. More weight in the limbs usually translates to less performance.

When I find the right weight after experimenting I will go for N3 or SX50 limbs. If I find these C1 capable I will stick with them. You can't beat the price. My bows are high mass weight so the extra weight won't bother me.
Gil, Remote chronoed his C1 and C2 limbs and posted the results in his thread on the two limbs. The C2, being lighter in weight, was also a bit faster (about 3 fps). Neither limb was very fast in comparison to Nika N3. To my eye, his results suggested that these budget Nika limbs are rather typical of average ILF limbs in the speed department. I have a set of C1s - Remote is absolutely correct (above) that these limbs are very quiet and tough.

They are also very soft to draw. My take on that is that both C1 and C2 feature the same short limb wedges that are characteristic of Uukha limbs (and of the Uukha-clone N3 limbs). The short wedges effectively make for a longer working limb. E.g. the working part of a medium C1 limb is comparable in length to the working part of a typical long ILF limb. I think this makes them draw like a limb one length longer - so you get a softer feeling draw then you'd expect.
 
Good analysis as to draw smoothness. You are onto something @Supraspinatus.

For their weight they do well for speed, which - you are right - places them about average. I will say though that with a longer draw the C1's seem to start working where other limbs of same length will begin to lock up, and it's there they start to make some ground on the mass/speed game, especially with a heavy arrow.

The C series would be way down the list for target, one wonders why they are marketed so. A bit odd. I want a light limb for light arrows. But for hunting they make very good sense. I did suggest to Nika they rebrand for a hunting line, things like matte bolt caps and a natural colour small logo design, but no bites so far.
 
I am going to try a pair of C1s @ 30# on my Spigarelli 25". They should wind up between 32 and 33#. That will be my form bow. I will try them on my 19" but at a 30" draw making them 38# may be pushing it.

Uukha states for their limbs, after a 10% increase over the marked weight, you begin to over stress their limbs. An increase of 15% would be like over drawing the bow 5". Uukha states that their limbs perform the best between a + or -5%.

For my 19" riser the Uukha configurator recommends 70"/30# to hit 38# for SX limbs making a 64" bow at my draw. Since that would be a 26% increase over marked weight and it wasn't flagged as over stressing I don't think their 10% recommendation may be much of a concern for my purpose. I have XLs SX50 on one of my 19" riser and the back end is a bit soft. I like a harder stop so maybe longs will give me that.

My plan will be C1s to start on the 25" then N3 longs on the 19". Unless I can find a cheap pair of used 30# SX50.

Reading what Bowmania said in the Draw Weight thread I feel more confident stepping down to hunt whitetails at close range with a lighter weight bow. Maybe I will step down to 36# depending on how I feel shooting the 30# C1s.

This year was the first time in my life I couldn't do something I wanted to do, because of my age and strength. In the last year and a half I lost a lot of muscle mass. I have to change that scenario. I will come back and regain that strength, but at least with my shooting I am going back to low and slow to gain a more stable bow arm.
 
Uukha states for their limbs, after a 10% increase over the marked weight, you begin to over stress their limbs. An increase of 15% would be like over drawing the bow 5". Uukha states that their limbs perform the best between a + or -5%.

For my 19" riser the Uukha configurator recommends 70"/30# to hit 38# for SX limbs making a 64" bow at my draw. Since that would be a 26% increase over marked weight and it wasn't flagged as over stressing I don't think their 10% recommendation may be much of a concern for my purpose. I have XLs SX50 on one of my 19" riser and the back end is a bit soft. I like a harder stop so maybe longs will give me that.
I think this part of your post would make a great thread starter. Based on Uukha's thinking there, nearly every hunter shooting limbs marked for 25"H risers would be well over their safe draw limit. Those of us with long draws even worse. I'm often drawing limbs 10-12lb over marked weight. I'm yet to have an ILF limb fail however. Risers yes.
 
Uukha's comments about Gillo risers and 15% is a little confusing. I think asking them for clarification might be a good idea.

For instance, Uukha recommends 70" (long) limbs for 29" draw length. I asked them what they would recommend for 29" draw length on a 17" riser. I was expecting them to suggest XL (72") limbs. They did not - they recommended longs. So they recommend long limbs for both 25" and 17" risers.

If we take long 40# SX+ limbs and put them on a 17" riser, we'll get draw weight about 48#, for a 20% increase. So we've already exceeded the 15% rule.

I think there is a little more to this. Uukha has always been very forthcoming with me in response to email questions.
 
Uukha's comments about Gillo risers and 15% is a little confusing. I think asking them for clarification might be a good idea.

For instance, Uukha recommends 70" (long) limbs for 29" draw length. I asked them what they would recommend for 29" draw length on a 17" riser. I was expecting them to suggest XL (72") limbs. They did not - they recommended longs. So they recommend long limbs for both 25" and 17" risers.

If we take long 40# SX+ limbs and put them on a 17" riser, we'll get draw weight about 48#, for a 20% increase. So we've already exceeded the 15% rule.

I think there is a little more to this. Uukha has always been very forthcoming with me in response to email questions.
I agree.

I am going to go on as I did in the past. I have a set of Border longs I shot on a 17" Das. My draw at the time was 30.5" with my thumb tab. I did draw curves on all my limbs and the Borders on the 17" were smooth drawing to 31" with similar pounds per inch.
 
I checked with Breathn first to see if he had Nika C1s or N3s in stock. At this time he doesn't.

I went to eBay and put a pair of C1s @30# and N3 Longs at 30# in my cart. If I don't get any hits on my ad in the trading blanket I will pull the trigger on eBay. The only problem is the 21 days shipping, when I am a, buy it now and get in 3 days, kind of guys.
 
Personally, I would buy direct from Nika if I couldn't get them from Breathn.

Nika will get them to you a lot sooner than 21 days, too. You could also ask for blackout limbs, if you are willing to wait 2 weeks or so. (Although I don't think that's necessary with the small-logo N3s.)
 
Too late for the C1s. I pulled the trigger in eBay.

I am going to hold off on N3s until I try the C1s. I shot 62" custom recurves when my draw was 28". But with today's limbs they seem much smoother at longer draws on shorter bows. I will shoot them first on the 25" then try them on the 19". If they feel and perform good they may wind up my go too set of limbs for hunting.

I can picture them camo painted already.
 
I am going to do a draw curve to my draw length on the C1s when I get them. I will build an arrow at 10 gpp and shoot them through my shooting machine.

I think I will be pleasantly surprised. At least I hope I am.
 
I looked at a few reviews of Nika N3 limbs on Archery Supplies in Youtube. The review showed that the Nika N3 was very loose on most risers with a lot of side to side and up and down movement, except for the Gillo riser. He also compared the N3 to Uukha SX50, which was a tight fit on all and very tight on Gillo.

From Nika owners experience have you found them to be very loose fitting?

They might work for my Tribute risers, since the Uukha SX50 was very tight on my riser. If they are very loose as shown in the reviews that won't fly for me.
 
How many times better do you find N3 than Gobi? ;)
Haha, are we really going to do this. This poor thread. Lest my bias precede me, I would tease out a 1.5, mainly considering production quality (cloth lay, clear coat), post shot response (vibe, flap, limb tip movment), ruggedness.

But as said before I don't like the roomy backend of the bigger curves, prefer a crisp release. My rating would be different otherwise!
 
I looked at a few reviews of Nika N3 limbs on Archery Supplies in Youtube. The review showed that the Nika N3 was very loose on most risers with a lot of side to side and up and down movement, except for the Gillo riser. He also compared the N3 to Uukha SX50, which was a tight fit on all and very tight on Gillo.
That guy sells Uukha's (Australia), said he doesn't want to upset them, and was honestly exaggerating the problem. String them up, straight and good as gold. You don't see many (any?) legit Nika owners complaining about that. Mine are really tight on some risers, looser on others. Perfect fit on our trusty old Hoyt Horizon, a standard. Go figure.
 
I looked at a few reviews of Nika N3 limbs on Archery Supplies in Youtube. The review showed that the Nika N3 was very loose on most risers with a lot of side to side and up and down movement, except for the Gillo riser. He also compared the N3 to Uukha SX50, which was a tight fit on all and very tight on Gillo.

From Nika owners experience have you found them to be very loose fitting?

They might work for my Tribute risers, since the Uukha SX50 was very tight on my riser. If they are very loose as shown in the reviews that won't fly for me.
I have no issues with the fit of N3s on three different ILF risers. This discussion reminds me of the talk about Bear limbs fitting loose in the Takedown. Once you string them up they are solid.
 
I had an original Bear takedown and several green stripes. I never found them to be loose. The Nika limbs he showed were excessive. The worst I have ever seen.

Glad to hear they fit your risers and hopefully will fit mine well. If they fit like the ones he showed they will wind up in the trash can unless I can swap out the ilf fitting for Das and the Das fittings make a difference.

We all have different likes and dislikes. I went to Das because of the positive connection. I hate the loose fitting ilf limbs, that is just me.
 
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