I owned a Hoyt Gold Medalist, Factory camo , extra short limbs...I bought it sometime late '92, or early 93, used, from the guy that sold it new, who was a Hoyt dealer...he also had several Hoyt TD-4+ risers, with Carbon Plus foam limbs,(shorts) that were Factory film dipped in the old grey Treebark camo...Those bows were smoking fast for then, and I never could talk that fella out of one of those Treebark camo rigs..Lets not forget that Black Widow had at least two different models of short, Hunting length metal risers bows, the H.S., and another one I cant remember..I had one of those, also...Mine was all black, something around 54"-56" long, and had a built in Factory over-draw...Quinn was building bows for Himself, and Shakespeare Archery (The TQ Takedown) back in the 90's, and even Martin had a metal riser hunting takedown, based off the old Lynx riser...PSE had the beefy metal riser bows, such as the one that Steve Long just had for sale, and Harold Groves contracted Proline Archery to sell him risers to bolt his excellent limbs onto...Short metal riser hunting bows are not new, for sure, and I'm sure that I can think of others given time....Jim