[Microphonic]

As per title really

Where does the three fingers under string holding technique come from?

I've been told it's North American, possibly 'invented' post first world war.

Is it really that modern?

No ancient / older cultures around the world used it?

Why?

 

[rsarns]

its often called "apache" but not sure if there is a link to that in reality

 

[graysquirrel]

Art Young used it, as have many for hundreds if years prior

In fact all forms of releasing an arrow have been around and used by various cultures since the bow was discovered, split finger, 3 under, 2 under, pinch nock, and thumb lock, nothing is new

 

[Grantmac]

I believe there is a tapestry from Europe which shows archers in the middle ages shooting 3 under. But then again they never were the most anatomically correct illustrations back then.

-Grant

 

[Rednef]

I have seen a picture of a 15th century woodcut showing a 2 under draw. Can't seem to find it again right now. But Grant does have a point.

 

[John in NZ]

It's been around since Adam was a boy and was probably taught to him by god.

I've been to a few shoots where 3 under was banned because it's not traditional.

Give me a break.

John.

 

[blakey]

As per title really

Where does the three fingers under string holding technique come from?

I've been told it's North American, possibly 'invented' post first world war.

Is it really that modern?

No ancient / older cultures around the world used it?

Why?

There is an old thread on Tradtalk titled "Apache Hold" which has good info on this, particularly from 'gray squirrel' and 'the other DWS'. They make a lot of sense. It will be interesting if anyone else chimes in. Cheers

 

[Sam Dunham]

It originated from an early Tribe of NDN's called the Craine tribe in Texas. It is often said they also stringwalked and had hundreds of Bows a piece?:shooting:

 

[blakey]

Another interesting resource is: Apache Grip (3under) - Georgia Outdoor News Forum. Has some very good photos.
No Craines tho.:shooting:

 

[Dave Holquist]

As explained to me by an acquaintance whose neighbor knew a guy who was friends with his second cousin, twice-removed, who lived just down the road from an ancient ancestor of a man who claimed to have personally shared a cave with the inventor of the bow and arrow back 63,999 years ago, the bow and arrow were designed to be shot with three fingers under.

So, the question in my mind is "what is the history of split-finger?" :sbrug: :lol:

 

[graysquirrel]

It originated from an early Tribe of NDN's called the Craine tribe in Texas. It is often said they also stringwalked and had hundreds of Bows a piece?:shooting:

Same tribe also developed the first art of watercolor painting, to decirate their bows

 

[Jon Lewis]

I believe there is a tapestry from Europe which shows archers in the middle ages shooting 3 under. But then again they never were the most anatomically correct illustrations back then.

-Grant

Did the tapestry show them arguing about whether or not it was traditional or if they were aiming instinctively or not

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[J. Wesbrock]

I thought it originated in Dante's sixth circle of trad hell, where all the heretics go.

 

[13033]

Wonder if ancient archers whiled away the hours with incessant discussions on arrow spine, brace height, anchor points, string walking, recurves versus long bows, .....

 

[graysquirrel]

I thought it originated in Dante's sixth circle of trad hell, where all the heretics go.

thats only in the minds of the split finger shooters that get their butt kicked by a 3 under shooter

 

[StevenB]

Wonder if ancient archers whiled away the hours with incessant discussions on arrow spine, brace height, anchor points, string walking, recurves versus long bows, .....

Since their form of "internet" was based on drum beats and smoke signals, I'm going to guess ... no.

 

[Cyrille]

Hey, I know of an archer that pulls the string back with his TEETH! What kind of "hold" is that?

 

[graysquirrel]

Hey, I know of an archer that pulls the string back with his TEETH! What kind of "hold" is that?

A very strong one

 

[Salskov]

Here's a link to a classic, "Ancient and Modern Methos of Arrow Release", written by Edward S. Morse in 1885.

http://www.archerylibrary.com/books...rn-methods-of-arrow-release/docs/notes01.html

Enjoy!

Regards,

Salskov

 

[Microphonic]

Thanks to all the sensible answers

I'm going to check out all the links and old threads y'all pointed me to for sure.

I'm not really interested in whether it's 'traditional' or not, more if there were technical or practical reasons for it being used / not being used.

Like, (STUPID QUESTION FROM A PLASTIC NOCK ONLY USER ALERT) would self nocked arrows be prone to coming off the string at full draw unless the nock was lightly 'held' via the split finger method? (or another method that wasn't two or three or whatever under)