Arrow Help

[mysticguido]

I know this has been done for others , But I need some help Please. First off I have a old shrew Long Bow.. 54" nock to nock 54# @ 27" My draw is 26" so that makes it 51#@26" arrow lenght would be from 26.5" to 27" topped with 145gr BH. I saw a chart that said Alums 1916's and woodies 40# to 45# (26) 45# to 50# (27) the question is I want more weight what would be heavyer Alums or woodies. Never shoot woodies.

[James Wrenn]

You could probably get heavier weights in the woods.I guess it depends on how heavy you want? If I planned on hunting with it I know what I would do.The shafts would be skinny and black. ;)

[mysticguido]

what do you mean? I want arrow weight between 550 and 600gr

[DAS]

Mystic,
Once you figure out the weight you want, it is a fairly simple thing to add up all the weights of the components and get a fairly good idea where you will fall. If you can find a good FOC calculator, they will have default weights for things like inserts that you can use. Check out Gold Tip's FOC calculator.
I think "skinny and black" means carbon, which I use too. I have the same draw length and similar weight bow as you, and a 600gr arrow will fly like a lead balloon with that set-up. If your shots are all under 20 yards, out of treestands where gravity is helping a little, etc., it doesn't really matter; but if you have ideas of shooting longer distances, lighter carbon arrows are the way to go. You can plug some numbers into Bow Jacksons calculator and get an idea where you are headed. It's all about balancing your gear to the environment you hunt. :luck:

[mysticguido]

Well I want arrow that will match my bow and be able to go for big game ..( Deer, Black Bear, caribu, Moose, and Elk)

[DAS]

I have definite ideas about arrow weight, as most people do, but I'm not going to share them. I've been dragged into that debate too many times. There are as many opinions about what you need as there are archers. If you ask for advice I'm sure you will get it! In the end it is your decision.

[Pinelander]

I'll share my thoughts on arrow weight... finding an arrow that tunes well out of the bow you are using and around 9 gr/lb is a good choice. This can be accomplished with woods, aluminum, and carbons out of a 50# bow. Kind of like sitting on the fence... not too light and not too heavy and will take down any North American game. Like DAS said, arrow weight can be debated on many levels. It all depends on what type of bow is being used and of course what the archer's preferences might be regarding arrow trajectory and also perceived penetration capabilities. Personally, I'm leanng towards the 8 gr/lb skinny carbon factor these days.

[Stagmitis]

Mystic,

How long of an arrow do you feel comfortable shooting? Let me know.


Youre best bet may be a carbon arrow with added weight.

[mysticguido]

Well I'm new to the trad hunting and I know more about wheel bow arrows that is why I'm asking about trad arrows. I leasen to what others say and then make my chorce from the info good or bad. It all helps . Thanks for everything that has been typed.. I talked to a guy from 3Rivers and He said Carbon would be better. I also email Kelly's bows and he told me easton 2016's will do the job I'm going to try both and see what works for me. Again Thank you all it really did help.

[James Wrenn]

Yes I was talking about the little skinny SST carbons but 600gns would take a little doing with them.I useually shoot 450 to 500gns out of my 50lb bows but I only hunt deer and hogs.No elk around here.

[mysticguido]

Stagmitis, 27" to 27.5" long would be fine.

[Pinelander]

Mystic, just my opinion... but I've seen many new trad hunters caught up in the "heavy arrow" thing. Countless situations where those that are switching from compound believe a heavy arrow is required. Not sure where it came from... but the thinking is that since the trad bow is shooting slower, a real heavy arrow is needed to compensate. Not so, it's more important to place the arrow where it belongs with a very sharp head.

Maybe you're a heavy arrow advocate (nothing wrong with that), but I guess what I'm trying to say is and you probably already know... most compounds are actually "over-kill" when it comes to taking down deer. I've always been a proponent of "keep trajectory at a minimum with an acceptable arrow weight". Lesser arrow trajectory can be your friend when new to shooting a recurve/longbow. Tuning your bow to shoot a rather flat and true-flying arrow will get the job done and total arrow weight will take care of itself as long as you don't go to extremes lightweight or heavyweight. I've hunted successfully with recurves using this formula for many years... but then again I was never told that I had to use a heavy arrow.

[DAS]

Piney, Well said!

[mysticguido]

Your right I guess it's the wheeler coming out and trying to make more then what is needed. so a 8gr to 10gr per pound would be fine for Deer, Bear(Black), Hog, Caribu, Moose, and Elk? last 3 is a maybe I might have a heavyer draw weight by then. so 2016's and carbons from what 40# to 50# spine would be good? with 145gr BH. should I bareshaft test first and cut to best length or fletch and cut to length (27"/27.5")?

[mysticguido]

Talked to Ron LeClair today and He said 2016's cut to 28" would be the best for my bow at my Draw. I just wanted to Thank everyone for there input. THANKS

[mysticguido]

well I got some new arrows, the ones that Mr. LeClair told me to get and cut them to 28" I need to work on re turning my bow now.