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Torsten
03-15-2005, 02:41 AM
I am speaking about speed 1 (arrow velocity) and speed 2 (how fast you get this thing start to fly.

The tinkering I saw until compound archers need until the arrow is released always puzzles me. There will be differences, I admit.
There are so many checks and controls to be made that a lot of time is needed.
My black stick flew home since a long time then.
I am living too far away form you, otherwise would show wheelbow shooters how quick I get the arrow out of the quiver and flying.

During the hunt there should be an obvious advantage.

Happy hunting for all.

Stagmitis
03-15-2005, 08:22 AM
A definate advantage Torsten!

If an archer practices with a hill style quiver they can accurately shoot an arrow every 4-5 seconds! With a properly fitted quiver the arrows are right behind the archers ear. This along with the arrow being nocked from above is the most efficient method ever devised to shoot an arrow quickly.

Wether its multiple shots at game or the ability to nock an arrow in the shortest time possible, it offers extra opportunity.

swampy
03-15-2005, 08:48 AM
I taught myself to snap shoot a compound and it paid off in the form of a nice 8 pointer that by rights shoulda made it.

It all depends on the person and what they want to do.I,d run from my back yard,bow in hand,around to the front up a ladder across the roof load and shoot my 3D as fast as I could muster.The running was to get my heart racing figurein if I needed a quick shot most likely my heart would be poundin.

That buck offered no shot from 2 yrds out when his eye,s locked with mine and he tucked tail and boogied outta there.Why he hesitated for a moment 20 yrds away is beyond me but I had practiced for it and he died as a result.

Cato
03-15-2005, 11:58 AM
One of Howard Hills big things was how quickly he could draw and shoot well. John Schultz said Howard could draw 6 arrows from a back quiver, and shoot them into the end of a bail of hay at 100 yds, in 15 seconds (if memory serves me). That's doing some shooting.

For me, to practice shooting real quickly brings on the target panic. Bummer.

Heathen
03-15-2005, 03:59 PM
Cato,

I second the part about shooting quiclkly brings on target panic.

Jim

Stagmitis
03-15-2005, 04:24 PM
I think the major aspects of shooting quickly,accurately and in total control have to do with these 3 factors. .

1) Having an aiming system that that affords the the aiming process to begin in advance of final anchor.

2)Having a strong in-line form, rock solid bow arm, and an anchor that is quickly engaged without the threat of losing tension.

3)Practice! I think that by the time H Hill reached anchor on most targets his aiming was already complete. Why would he hold any longer than needed?

I think once an archer gets total control of holding several seconds and shooting accurately then they can simply speed this process up.

DAS
03-16-2005, 07:02 AM
There is an old adage in autoracing that to be fast you must be slow. As Stagmitis said, the speed comes naturally if you build from perfect repetition. I agree with Torsten that the speed of deployment of a string bow is a huge advantage. It is a big reason why I don't shoot compounds. The herky jerk draw destroys my rythym and by the time you settle back in, the opportunity is lost. Rabbits did not fear me; squirrels laughed at my approach; and game birds circled once before flying away (just because they could). :lol:

Pinelander
03-16-2005, 07:18 PM
The way I hunt deer (90% from tree stand), I'm not overly concerned about how quickly I get to string... arrow is already nocked. BUT, I do enjoy the ability to draw rather quickly and smoothly, then release when anchor is achieved during that short and intense time frame when the moment arrives. I also enjoy a very fast arrow... it gets there, well... faster!