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Boho
12-25-2005, 02:41 PM
are you guys sick of seeing "XMAS" everywhere you look. To me it's like taking the Christ out of Christmas. I've always been told to spell it out and I guess it just stuck. If people want to abreviate, why not "C'MAS"? That would seem much better to me. Hope you all had a Merry Christmas. Tom

Matt
12-25-2005, 04:14 PM
As a kid we used to say X-Mas for shorthand. It seems that everybody used to do it. But now day's, now that the war too take Christ out of our lives, has started I relized saying X-Mas it blantantly taking Christ out of Christmas.

Also when I was a kid nobody thought anything about saying Happy Holidays or Seasons Greetings. Saying those things didn't mean you didn't want to talk about God. It was just another way of saying Merry Christmas. But now everything is seen different.

It's been refreshing to see some Stations, like Fox, making it a point to talk about the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ for Christmas.

BLACK WOLF
12-28-2005, 08:42 PM
Nope...it's not just you...Thank God...quite a few of us feel it too.

Ray ;)

Heathen
12-30-2005, 06:44 AM
If you all get a chance to watch The History Channel's History of Christmas. You might get a big surpise on what Christian religious sects wanted to do away with Christs Mass, The Feast of the Nativity, or whatever you want to call it. Most Evagelical Protestant didn't recognize Christmas until the mid 19th century.
Also this phony so-called "War on Christmas" instigated by the Great Pervert Bill O'Reilly and Fox News is a bunch of nonsense.

Jim

Snag
12-30-2005, 01:48 PM
Man has been flawed ever sense the Garden of Eden. The decisions some men have made to make Christianity more popular is because man is not perfect. Placing Christmas in the winter to be in line with the winter solstice to make the pagans more comfortable with this celebration is one example. What is important to me as a believer is that it is a time that I am reminded of the importance of Christ's birth and God's saving Grace through His Son. I hope this helps you, Heathen. If you have any other thoughts on this I would like to hear from you. Don't let man's flaws stand in your way of understanding what Our Loving God has for you. Satan uses situation like this to draw us away from what is important. Why do you think there are so many different denominations in the church? What is important is admitting we are sinners, repenting of our sins, accepting Jesus Christ as Our Savior, and studying God's Word and trying to live by it. I pray that you will consider this.

Heathen
12-31-2005, 06:21 AM
Why is it important for the Great Pervert to pay $41,000,000 to keep an ex emplyees mouth shut? If he's spreading the Word of the Lord your on the wrong team. :goodvevil

Jim

Esquire
12-31-2005, 09:54 PM
Heathen,

Don't know anything about O'Reilly, but the Lord God has been grossly misrepresented by many over the years. Ever watch Robert Tilton???

But don't let a bad cook spoil you on good food!

Mike

Swanny
01-01-2006, 10:02 AM
Personally, I have no problems accepting the historical beginnings of our present Christmas holiday as a pagan tradition rooted in sexual origies and the occults that the Roman Catholics eventually high-jacked and made 'sacred', later tweaked by the followers of Christ.

This doesn't mean I have issues with those who want to use the Christmas holiday to celebrate the birth of Christ....as long as they are truly doing it to the glory of God as Paul said to the Corinthians in whatever they did, high-jacked or not. Everything is sacred to the lover of Christ...even shooting one's bow!

But the waters can easily be muddied with the whole notion of gift giving...which so easily appeals to the fleshy nature of man...especially that of children. Selfishness is so easily disquised and fed under the cloak of 'Christ's birth'. Ungrateful monsters have sprung up left and right.

Since there is liberty in Christ over issues like this ('matters of indifference'....we aren't commanded in Scripture to celebrate the incarnation of Deity, but are to celebrate his death on the cross and his ever-present coming again every time we eat a meal with fellow brothers and sisters) my wife and I decided thirteen years ago to not celebrate Christmas as is usual and customary to most Americans. This doesnt' mean we don't give gifts to each other....which may happen at any and various times throughout the year unexpectantly. We do this 'to the glory of God' and don't do it in a superior attitude over and above those who celebrate Christmas the traditional way.

Still hard for most folks to not see as quite odd. Ho! Ho! Ho! :)