This may not belong here.. but.. TITANIUM

[Phil]

I know this topic may not belong on this thread or indeed this forum as it's not exactly what you would call traditional but I respect the comments of the members , so.. here goes.
I spent the day with a friend who imports Titanium framed mountain bikes. The conversation got around to bow,arrows etc as it usually does and he asked if anyone had ever made Titanium arrows. Now. I don't hunt, but I do know that there are some hunting broardheads made from Titanium, but, he was asking as to weather anyone had made an arrow shaft from Ti. I'm not exactly sure of the mechanical characteristics of Ti but if the strength to weight ratio is OK then Why not??. He tells me that the bike makers he deals with are one of the world leaders in Ti extrusion so wall thickness and diameters shouldn't be a problem So what do you think , is there a market for a Titanium shaft or has it been tried before ??? :sbrug:

P.S. The bike makers he deals with are American

[Scooter]

The strength to weight ratio would be great but I think the price would make ace's look cheap. I think the market would be small due to the price issue.

[swampy]

I tend to agree the price would be quite high.For some reason my gray matter seems to be thinkin I saw some before but hey I really don,t recall for sure.

Just like Alum there are differnt grades of titanium.Grade 2 is somewhat soft and fairly easy to work with grade 5 is brutal.Not sure what grade thye use in the shell of the F-16s,stealths,ect probably secret LOL

[Stick'em]

Yep.......pricy baby! Have you ever purchased a Titanium golf club.....Yikes!

[pondscum2]

sure, they will be higher than we are used to, but so was carbon when it appeared. if they last longer than carbon the way that carbon outlasts everything else, then they would sell well enough. :2cents: why not Ti risers? MUCH more rigid than aluminum, magnesium, etc. ps2

[Grey Ghost]

Phil, why don't you ask the fellow to ask them about making a test batch of some 1916 or 1919's and have them tested by a dozen or so archers to see if it would be worth their time to produce. I'd sure take a dozen and shoot them for a while. I don't know of anyone who makes a 1919, but I like my 2020 Legacys so much, I'd sure like to give them a try. Now if they would give these babies a good dip into the Legacy vat, I'd be willing to pay for the extra. :)

gg

[Papabull]

So I guess there would be a niche market for something like that. But as much anguish as I see over a lost XX75 or cedar shaft at the shoots, you might have to put a fella on suicide watch after loosing a titanium arrow that bounces off the back and into the wild blue yonder never to be seen again. :)

[thisbucks4u]

if it was lightweight,strong, straight and consistant there would be a market. Ill personally volunteer to test them. hell Id even pay to be the guinea pig for that job. Sign me up.

[Torsten]

Now we have it.

I thought for a long while about it. Whenever I have to make something that will last and is light, in many cases Ti is invincible. I have tried Ti disc brakes disks for bicycles, screws, bars, sifters....

I see a major advantage against Al in the stiffness area and what concerns permanent bending.
As a point to start with I would suggest to use hydraulic piping used in aeroplanes (there might be higher wall thickness though, but most likely it is seamless) and compare. Anybody there to get hydraulic piping from fighters?

When compared with carbon fiber the advantage might shrink, particularly when considering the possibility for a sophisticated design of the lay out of fabric and structure for carbon most likely at a similar price when compared with X10, ACE, Grizzly Stik.

A small outside diameter pipe made of Ti most likely could not compete which carbon regarding the stiffness/weight. On the other hand 'fat-boy' types most likely are worth to give a try.