First deer with recurve

[Passthru]

I shot a nice whitetail doe last night with my 46 lb@28" Bob Lee. This was my first deer with a recurve and my second with a traditional bow. The first was with a 76 lb longbow about 16 years ago. I hunted with that longbow for a season and went back to compounds. This is my first year since then hunting with a traditional bow.

The shot was about 10 yards and from a stand. My arrow was an Easton Axis 400, with a 100 grain insert, tipped with a 125 grain screw in 2 blade Magnus.

At the hit, she ran about 60 yards uphill and fell over dead. It couldn't have taken more than 6 seconds. I was very impressed with what a razor sharp 2 blade could do.

BTW, I passed on a 3 point at 6 yards the day before. We have a one buck rule in Indiana. I counted coup on him. I may have used up a whole season's luck opening weekend. We will see. I'm back for good this time.

[swampy]

COOL :cheers: :highfive: congrads for sure.I see what your useing for arrows now,missed that on another thread LOL but shoulda been able to figure it out.

Any idea what your total arrow wieght is ??

How much of a pain is the HIT system or did you have them installed ?

Congrads again and enjoy your back straps!

[Ray Cover]

Good job! I'm envious. You got any pics?

Ray C.

[Passthru]

Swampy,

What thread are you talking about?

I use hot melt on the inserts. It works great. I'll paste something here that I posted on another sight a while back.

"I start with the insert and point I want to use and a long shaft. Then test and cut until it's right. I cut with a dremel tool and square the ends on an Arrow Squaring Device. That's why you need hotmelt, so you can remove the insert and cut the shaft. Once you have your setup, you might want to epoxy them in. By the way, wear a respirator when you work with carbons.

The first thing you need to do is purchase two 8/32” brass machine screws about 2 1/2-3" long. Brass transmits heat faster than steel I’m told. Also get two 8/32" steel nuts. I found this stuff at Home Depot.

The two steel nuts will be used as a depth stop. Screw one of the brass screws into an insert and compare it to the little plastic tool Easton includes with the arrows. Jamb the nuts together at the appropriate depth.

Now you are ready to put in an insert. Clean the inside of the shaft with 91-99% isoprol (sp?) alcohol. I then use a butane mini torch and pliers to heat the screw and the insert until the hot melt (the good kind ferl melt) melts on the insert. Push it in and give it a slight twist. Dunk it into a glass of water to cool everything. Heat is bad for the carbon shaft. You may have to heat the screw slightly to get it out. It won't take much. Then you can use the cold screw to get any extra hot melt out of the inside of the shaft.

Now how to get and insert out.

Thread the screw without the nuts into the insert and heat the screw, not the shaft. Keep the heat away from the carbon. Pull out the insert as soon as you can. The object is to get the insert hot enough to melt the glue but not hot enough to hurt the shaft.

So far I haven't had any pull out in 3d targets or anything. I did manage to loosen one a little by shooting my wood fence (don't ask). It was easy to fix.

By the way those 100 grain inserts worked out great. I think my arrow weight came out about 530 grains total. This is great setup for my 46lb bow. All of my points are 125 grains. The Easton field points are the same diameter as the shaft and pull from targets easily. I'm using 125 grain Magnus screw-ins, 125 grain ace hex blunts, and 125 grain game nabbers.

I found that he long brass 100 grain inserts stiffened the shaft. So I wouldn’t recommend something like, 100 grain brass +125 grain fp = 19 grain insert + 206 grain broadhead. I don’t remember what the standard insert weighs. I’m speaking hypothetically here. Feel free to add your thoughts and experiences.

If you want to use a 225 grain broadhead, you should purchase 225 grain field points. Bob Morrison carries them as well as Three Rivers and Kustom King."

[Boho]

way to go passthru. did you get one btw? :)

[Lambow]

Allright Passthru!!! good shooting. It feels good don't it? I don't blame you for countin coup, with that 1 buck rule. Got plenty of time there to bust a big one.


Lambow

[Pinelander]

Passthru, congratulations on your successful hunt. :)

There will be many more, you can be sure of that. Sure is a wonderful thing taking deer at such a close distance where you can practically see their eyelashes blink. :D

I'm curious... how was the penetration with that 11.5 gr/lb carbon out of your 46#er? I suspect the entry was rather high and exited pretty low... she must've drained like an oil change, huh?

Once again... nice going, ain't no better way to start a season than a bloodied arrow and a downed deer!
:highfive:

[Bill Carlsen]

...make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside? Very nice. It is time to get a big boy, now! :highfive:

[Passthru]

It does feel good to have taken another one with a traditional bow. It felt like my first deer all over again. Hunting with a trad bow is a rush. It was as if all of those hundreds of hours spent shooting, tuning, fletching, string making, broadhead sharpening, etc., boiled down to that moment. They were distilled down to the string pressure on my fingers as I focused on that spot. The weight of all that preparation seemed to be behind that arrow as I held at full draw. And yet, there was that lingering doubt. Was it enough? As I answered that question the string slipped from my fingers. I knew I could make that shot.

The arrow hit the near backstrap and exited mid-chest on the far side. Penetration was adequate, but not the complete pass through I hoped for. About 14 inches of shaft and feathers was left sticking out. She somehow managed to snap off the broadhead end of my arrow at the impact site. The blood trail wasn't great. I may try a 3 blade head like a Razorcap. The 2 blade dropped her very quickly, but I would like a better blood trail.

Unfortunately, I didn't get any good pictures. I need to start carrying a camera with a self timer when I hunt. My mom snapped some of it in the back of my truck with her digital, but she doesn't know how to email them. I'll get them later.

[DAS]

Congratulations Passthru! Everything shot with traditional equipment is a trophy IMO!:cheers:

[greenghost]

Passthru, just wanted to add my congratulations. Traditional equipment is special and harvesting an animal with it is even more so. Savor the tenderloins when you eat them and bear in mind the connection they represent between you and the earth.

[Cueball]

Way to go friend. Loads of fun for sure and takes all the pressure off to get one early. Keep it up.

.........................................Roby..... ......................................

[James Wrenn]

Good job! Now that the first one is under the belt the rest will come easy. :)

[Bill Carlsen]

...it has always been my opinion (and experience) that the most difficult deer to get is the next one. If they came easy I would be disappointed and would have to use a spear in order to experience the challenge. :)

The only time I wish it to be easy is when the last hour of the last day arrives and I still have my tag unfilled. I also like it when they drop where I can drive to where they lay or if the drag is all downhill on a grassy or snow covered slope.