NFAA 300 round

[BLACK WOLF]

Great to see some guys finally posting their scores.

I shot a 300 round today with a score of 254.

I shoot a 69lbs. SAIII Widow, 30.5" 2419 arrows, 155g. points, split finger, index finger in the corner of my mouth, bow canted at 1:30, split vision or instinctive gap as I like to call it.

Ray

[Heathen]

Ray,

Sounds like you did good. I'm not familiar with the NFAA 300 round what does it consist of? Distances, targets, classifications, etc...???

:shooting:

Jim

[BLACK WOLF]

Heathen,

The NFAA 300 round consists of:

Distance - 20yrds.

Target - NFAA 300 round paper target, which consists of 5 scoring rings (5,4,3,2,1)

Number of arrows shot/ round = 5

Total number of rounds = 12

Classifications - Barebow, Freestyle, Freestyle Limited, Competitive Bowhunter, Freestyle Bowhunter, Freestyle Limited Bowhunter, Traditional, Freestyle Limited Recurve/Longbow

For more details check out the NFAA website - http://www.nfaa-archery.org/field/styles.cfm

Unfortunately, they don't seem to have anything on the NFAA 300 indoor round.

A score between 200 and 220 is good.
A score between 220 and 240 is really good.
A score between 240 and 260 is great.
A score between 260 and 280 is exceptional.
Anything above that is well...in human ;)

A score of 240 is like putting all 60 of your arrows in the 10 ring of a 20yrds. deer target.

Ray

[Grey Ghost]

Now lets see if I can give all the information Black Wolf asked for. (grin)
Me, my cane and I, shot a 30 target, 3D course where the targets ranged from 15 to 30 yards up and down steep hills, over creeks, and under cliffs. It was scored 11,10,8, and 5. My score was by no means a winner and I have shot higher scores before, but it was the FIRST TIME I have shot a complete round without a miss. I shot a 64" Black Widow PMA V, 47# @ 31" drawn to 26-1/2"and shot 384gr XX75 1913's, cut to 29-1/4". Next time my goal is to cut down on my 5's. Oh, by the way, my score was 223. I know the score does not compare to you fellows, but I felt it was good for a 70 year old cripple. (grin)

gg

:)

[swampy]

Just got back from our last league night and posted a 259.

I thought(bad move LOL) I had a chance at a personal best and thru the last 2 arrows away :sbrug: a dang 2 and a 3 :mistake: oh well thats still my best on league night.

I shoot a 58# hummingbird longbow off the shelf with beman ics classics,29.5" 4000,s with 125 up front.

I,m planning on going down next Mon also even though the league is finished,some of the guys will be here for a make up anyway.Also plan to shoot another 300 this Sun getting ready for the states next Sun. That,ll be my first large scale compition.It,ll be mostly wheel shooters but thats okay.I,ll need to do better than I did tonight to win but it,ll be FUN just the same

[BLACK WOLF]

gg,

Who you kiddin'...223 is some good shootin'!!!

What type of aiming system do you use...instinctive or other?

Ray

[BLACK WOLF]

Dang swampy...you're kickin' butt. You seem to be getting better and better.

What type of aiming system do you use...instinctive or other?

Ray

[Grey Ghost]

Black Wolf,

Still have a ways to go, but hope to continue to make baby-step improvements.

I use a modified shotgun aiming system. The draw is very critical to me. I draw straight back, while looking straight down the arrow at the target. Mentally I keep the cock feather in my peripheral vision and draw it as close to my eye as I can as I anchor my forefinger against my cheek bone, and place my thumb into the hollow under the cheek bone. The field point is placed right under the quarter size target. Using the feather as a rear sight, the field tip as a front sight and the target as an apple, I get the typical pistol sight picture of "an apple on the fence post". If my draw is done correctly, I can keep my arrows on a tennis ball at 20 yds. Trouble is even though I know what to do, I have a hard time getting my body to cooperate. (smile) So that tennis ball grows to the size of a basketballl, quite often. This occurs quite often on the last ten 3D targets when I start getting tired.

gg :shooting:

[swampy]

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Date: 18-Feb-04


Since it looks like nobody,s gonna wanna post a low score I,ll post my first for the year 87 out of 150.I shot a nice group at a piece of tape than put up the target for score and sprayed them all over.Talk about target panic LOL My personal best is 133 out of 150.I,ll post anther score later.


I copied that post from the 150 league thread tha limbwalker started on the wall
It,s only to show any lurkers that it,s very possible to bring their scores up and to not be detered by any high scores that may be posted here.We ALL started off lower and are willing to help ANYBODY improve.

"What type of aiming system do you use...instinctive or other?"
Mmmmmmmmmmm, I was kinda wonderin that myself LOL.I guess its kinda like what you call instinctive gap.

I bring my bow arm up with preasure on the string trying to keep both shoulders down low(shrug position sorta) and draw straight back.While drawing I do see the arrow and make sure it,s pointed at the target,it kinda forms a line.Once the whole sight picture looks right I release and try to maintain that picture till the arrow hits.

I don,t look at the arrow I just see it as I,m drawing as a double check of sorts that it,s where it should be in order to hit the spot.What,s my gap?? I don,t have a clue LOL

Keep the shoulders down and maintain back tension useing a good hook on the string and it just works.It,s when I start thinkin that things go :mistake:

[BLACK WOLF]

swampy,.

Those are the kinds of thing I want other archer's to see and get from this forum. We all don't start out good, but most of us do improve.

Hey...we shoot almost exactly the same...instinctive gap ;)

Ray

[swampy]

There sometimes seems to be an intimdation factor over here,thats why I wanted others to see that it wasn,t all that long ago when breakin 200 was a good thing.

That 259 I shot last night was one of my better score,s .Right now it,s not that hard for me to get 240 but that seems to be about my average for the 12 wk league.Ofcourse I,m alittle better now than when I started LOL hopefully I,ll keep those high 250,s for an average and get into the 270+ range on good days

By the way breakin 200 with a stick isn,t all that bad guys so please don,t be intimidated by higher score,s.Just remember that YOU can do it too. There are guys that,ll help if thats what you,d like.....just ask and we,ll do our best

[Grey Ghost]

Made a huge, dumb, strategic, ego driven, etc. etc. mistake today. Got my new riser in the mail yesterday from Warf, real late in the day, and put my limbs on went out shot a few arrows, came back inside, got some advice and tried to set up my Warfer inside without shooting. Went out this morning before the meet, ran a dozen arrows through it at various yardages and took it to the 3D meet to shoot.

Don't ever take a new bow to a meet, without going through the full tuning process. Make sure you don't need to adjust anything. Shoot the bow for a few days. Instant gratification just wont get it if you want to shoot a new bow like it can be shot and like you should be able to do it. Last weeks score dropped from 223 to 177 on a 30 target course. I went from the first shoot in which I did not miss a target, to shooting completely over five critters and getting high 5's on 6 more.

I have seen hunters come in buy a new bow and go out to hunt the next day. Disrespect for the critters. I showed the same disrespect for foam today.

gg



DONT EVER TAKE A NEW UNTESTED, UNSHOT, BOW TO A FOAM HUNT!!!!!!! :goodvevil

[swampy]

I was off Sun mornin and shot a 236. It seems nice to be "off" and still shoot a fairly decent score,I even kept up with some of the compounders with that score LOL.Most of the wheel guys and gals where much higher than that,the ones that weren,t were quite old and one was shootin a 45# compound barebow. I keep thinkin I need to drop 5#,s and get into the low 50,s,that just may help out my shooting but for now I gotta shoot what I got to shoot

[Desert Archer]

I haven't touched my indoor set-up (34# 68" recurve and 547g 2214 X7 arrows) since shooting the State NFAA Indoor where my last round was a 260. Decided to give some QuikSpin vanes a try (in place of my 4" feathers) so after they got set up (glue dried) I shot a 300 round. Guess I'm not going to go with those QuikSpin vanes. Shot a terrible 227. As soon as the wind dies down (gusting to 25 or 30 today) I'll try another round on the patio. I'm going back to the feathers and try to get back to the 250s I was shooting in practice before the State Indoor.

Black Wolf, I am a point of aim shooter. With my wimpy bow and heavy arrows I can hold at 6 o'clock on the 40cm blue face and those slow, heavy arrows drop into the middle (sometimes).

Dave

[swampy]

I seem to be slipping again 235 tonight

[Str8 Shooter]

I shoot a 300 round once a month or so. Started doing them in January so this was my fourth one this year. I shot an even 250 this time. It's funny but I wasn't keeping track of my score as I went, just at the end. I was shooting pretty well but had a hard time zoning it into the five ring. I kept ringing the five spot. Frustrating to me because it seems to be whats holding me back from shooting a whole lot better.

Anyone got any tricks for closing a group in tighter?



Chris

[BLACK WOLF]

Chris,

A 250...that's some pretty good shootin'!!!

Maybe if you described your style and equipment some of us might be able to better help you out concerning your questions.

Ray ;)

[swampy]

Yea 250 is good shootin for sure. I,ll listen to any tips to closein the groups too LOL

[swampy]

Yesterday I shot 132 out of 150 with my tab,today I thought I had left mytab home and shot with my glove 134 :) :) :) If I woulda shot them together it woulda been a personal best

[BLACK WOLF]

swampy,

ugggg...a possible 266...that is smokin'!

Tighten' your groups...put a sight on that thing...LOL...just kiddin' ;)

Ray ;)

[swampy]

Yea , I like shootin like that. I can,t call it a 266 though because it was 2 differnt days and 2 differnt release methods (tab,glove).

I see the top dogs are up a bit from there actually so I,ve still got work to do :) Good thing its FUN work and the best part is pretty much ANYBODY with an open mind and a will to work at it can shoot that well or better

[swampy]

looks like nobody else is keepin score anymore.Actually after this weekend Im gonna get some other things done and not score very much,maybe some 3D scores.....Anywho I just shot another 150 round addin up to 129. No shooting on Thur. its payday and my day off from shootin ,probably another 150 on Fri and than the states

Thanks again to everybody thats helped me climb to the level I,m at now

[swampy]

Only shot 121 out of 150 today,I did end up shooting 3 ends yesterday 23,24,22 so my ups have been more than my downs. I,ll post the results of the NYFAB classic on another thread and won,t be scoreing to many 150 or 300 rounds for a bit while I get caught up on other things.Besides 3D season is here and hopefully I can get to more than just whats at our club.Our clubs first is next weekend 10,8,5 scoreing for a possible 300

[Desert Archer]

After shooting between 250 and 300 arrows on Friday and Saturday I took Sunday off. Today I had a lot of stuff to do but by mid-afternoon was feeling like I missed watching the flight of an arrow. No time to drive to the range but the patio was waiting so I shot a NFAA 300 (complete with half on a lower target and half on an upper target).

If felt good to shoot again and watch those X7 2214s slowly arc to the target in the brite sunlight (low 80s today). Despite one really awful end (an 18) I almost matched my personal best of 260. Shot a 259. Oh to have those five to do over (LOL). Funny how this is so hard it's fun!

Gotta get back to field archery to get ready for the State shoot but I'm going to keep up the 300 rounds, maybe in the evening this summer. It is a great way to refine and practice good basic form...hold, release, follow through.

Dave

[BLACK WOLF]

DA,

Nice shootin"!

Man that made me smile....there's been quite a few times I wanted a few do overs. To come so close and than feel like you just pretty much blew it ;)

Ray ;)

[Desert Archer]

To come so close and than feel like you just pretty much blew it
To top it off, I had just shot a 24. Don't know what happened to the concentration/form but it sure went to hell on that 18 (LOL). Came back with a 22 and was mad at myself for the 18 but didn't think much more about it until I was done and added everything up. When I saw the 259 total I could have kicked my self. That's when I wanted those five shots to do over. But, once you let go of the string they're in the book (laughing at myself).

Dave

[swampy]

Nice shootin DA !
I shot my first 4 ends at the states as 18,s and I had been doing so well all week LOL to finish it with a 228.

[Desert Archer]

Only shot a little on Thursday and not at all on Friday. Today was a "get weekend stuff done" kind of day and by the time I got home this afternoon it was in the mid-90s. About the time the sun dropped behind the neighbor's trees I decided to go out to the patio and shoot a 300 round, just to get an arrow flinging fix (LOL).

Started out pretty good with a 25, 24 & 23 in the first half on the upper target. By the second half on the lower target it was getting to be dusk and harder to see. I started to hurry and my concentration or form (or both went to hell). By the time it was all over I shot a 253.

The beauty of this round, at least for me, is that it doesn't take all that long to shoot, I can do it at home and it is great practice/training in fundamentals. I just have to break that 260 I shot a while back and I better try it when it's still daylight (LOL).

Dave

[Desert Archer]

My plans to shoot the field course today got trashed when a simple repair job turned into an almost all day affair (I just hate that stuff). Anyway, to get in a little form practice if nothing else I shot the 300 round on the patio again.

Guess my mind was still on the repair job gone astray. Only shot 252. Seemed like I couldn't get off 5 arrows without shooting a "3". Damn irritating!

Guess I just need to practice more - Dave

[swampy]

Haven,t scored anything in a bit but had time last night for a 300 round.124 on the first half 130 on the second.

[Desert Archer]

I find myself shooting the 300 round as a way to practice form and fundamentals. Keeping score just keeps me honest.

Shot this afternoon in a mild breeze (yea, I know it's an idoor round but I shoot it on the patio). Good ends and bad ends. Final score was 255. Shooting 3s is proof my form has too many flaws.

Dave

[swampy]

Scored one last night ....1 warmup end finished with a 252. I had 1 end that was 18 because of 2 fliers that scored 2,s LOL I really gotta get rid of those.

First arrow of the day was at 9:00 centered in the 4 ring 2nd was @ 9:00 between the X and the edge of the 5 for a solid 5......I,ve been thinkin about scoreing the first arrow of the day for 2 months to see what it would add up to whatcha think ??

[swampy]

Haven,t been doing much scoreing lately but figured I would today at lunch...shot 1 practice end and then a pair of 131,s for a 262 out of 300

can,t wait till thats more average LOL Them whitetails are in deep sh?? HAHAHA

[Desert Archer]

Good shooting! That beats my personal best by a couple points.

It would seem you and I are the only ones on this board who ever keep score (LOL). To bad. I had hoped this "Scoreboard" would be more active.

Dave

[swampy]

LOL yea I noticed not to many are posting scores. Thats the 3rd time I,ve broke 260......a pair of 262,s and a 264 ......I figure if we keep workin at it the top scores of today will be the average scores of tomorrow.Ofcourse progress has slowed a bit but still progress is progress

[swampy]

130 out of 150 on lunch 3 arrows per end no warm up....first 3 were 5,s :)

[Desert Archer]

No offense intended but half of a 300, and only 3 shots at a time is kind of like cheeting. The challange is five arrows in a row, repeated twelve times. The endurance to see it through to the end is just part of it.

Dave

[swampy]

LOL yea I know but I,ve got busted nocks busted arrows a blunt tipped a BH tipped and 3 with field points besides the 4 in my huntin quiver with sharp BH,s for turkeys.Haven,t been scorein hardly at all most tryin to work on getting my back tension down.I still need a bit of work yet to catch some of the guys around here.

Besides I find it,s easier to get in a rythem shootin 5 LOL I need to get out the toolbox and do some repairs LOL

Wait till after this weekend ....I,m going carpin .....bowfishin has a tendancy to screw me up sometimes but it sure is fun

[Desert Archer]

As a kid I did a lot of bow fishing where I grew up in the mid-West. Shallow lake near our town was full of carp. The back bays would litterally fill with spawning carp in the spring.

There were no deer in that part of Ohio back then, so my hunting was limited to small game...rabbits, squirrels & ground hogs. Missed a lot of cottontails, lost a lot of arrows in the oak hickory trees and spend a lot of time on my hands an knees trying to sneak up on ground hogs. Shooting carp was my most successful hunting adventure with a bow (LOL).

Dave

[Bowcephalus]

The rest of us are workin' up to it............................;)

[Desert Archer]

I've always looked at the NFAA 300 round as a great way to work on form. Mistakes show up instantly and there's enough shots, each exactly like the last one, that you can correct your mistakes.

Anyway, I developed a annoying problem with my release over the weekend and decided to work on it this AM, before the temp hit 100 degrees (supposed to be 105 today). Sixty arrows later I had shot my best ever 300 round...264! Solved the release problem (smiley face goes here). Now I'm looking to raise the bar and break 270!!!

Dave

[swampy]

Way to go DA :bow2: That just happens to be my personal best also.

I also like the 300 for the same reasons.I had trouble breakin 200 at first

Nice shootin keep it up :shooting:

[swampy]

There are some folks out there now shootin those type of scores that don,t like to post them. If ever I reach that level I,ll most likely not post scores either only because I don,t want to discourage anybody thats just starting out doing it.If ya look on the wall at Limbwalkers NFAA 150 thread I posted a score of I think 87 out of 150. I,d hafta have a major melt down and probably equipment problems to at this time to get a score like that.It just goes ta show ya that even average folks like myself can improve alot if they put their minds to it.

I wish my best was in the 280,s let alone 290,s but hey I,ve come a ways so far maybe someday I,ll make it that far

[Desert Archer]

Shot a 300 round this morning with my new Indoor set up. A 70" Hoyt Elan riser and Vector limbs, pulling 40# at my draw. Easton 2214 X7 arrows, 33.25" long with 75g target point and 4.18" Flex-Fletch vanes (wieght = 499g). For the first time I'm shooting 3 fingers under, which still feels kind of strange.

My previous best was a 264 in practice. This morning I shot a 266 and that was with a couple "2s" from really bad releases. Once I get use to this 3 under thing, I can work on breaking 270. (smiley face goes here)

Dave

[swampy]

Thats awesome DA !! I haven,t scored one in a while (no targets LOL) but would like to soon just to see where I am.I hopein ta break into that 270 area myself and feel it,s real close sounds like your about there too :highfive:

[Desert Archer]

If I could just stop the occasional glitches (spastic like release) I think I'd break through. It doesn't take but a couple 2s or 3s to really pull down a score. Oh well, if it was easy everybody would be doing it (LOL).

Dave

[Desert Archer]

Shot the 300 round again this morning. Another personal best, if only by one point (LOL). Shot 267.

Dave

[Desert Archer]

Been working toward breaking my goal of 270 on the NFAA 300 course. Shot 275 this am on the patio. Wish I could save that one for competition (LOL).

Dave

[Desert Archer]

The day after shooting a 275 I repeated the same 275 score. Scared the crap out of myself (LOL) and the next day shot only 257. Had a long layoff but shot the course this AM. My glory days are over as I had a 259.

Dave

[BLACK WOLF]

DA,

Awesome shooting, dude!

I strongly suggest you consider going to Vegas next year and compete if your scores continue to improve and average close to 260 and 270 or better.

Ray ;)

[Desert Archer]

Ray,

I was told by a guy in a local archery shop (compound shooter by the way) that there is no barebow shooting in Vegas. He said if I wanted to shoot my recurve indoors I had to go to Louisville for the NFAA Nationals. If you've been to Vegas, do you know the truth of all this?

By the way, the Senior Olympics is putting on an indoor shoot in Prescott, AZ at the end of the month and when I signed up they said I would be shooting at 15 yards since I didn't have any sights on my bow. I raised a stink and now I'm shooting with the Olympic Recurve guys at 20 yards. LOL - once again I'll be the only one on the line in my group with no sights. That's OK, I'm getting used to it (LOL again).

Dave

[BLACK WOLF]

David,

LOL...no barebow in Vegas...I was there this year competeting in it ;)

Seriously though...yes, there is a barebow class and yes, I did shoot in it.

It was bar non...the most preasure I have ever felt. I was hired to fly to NY to demonstrate my target and trick shooting skills for Indian Summer a few years ago and never felt that kind of preasure.

I went to Vegas...not thinking I was going to win, but to prepare myself mentally for some of the big 3D shoots I was going to travel to this year. It ended up beating me mentally and I developed a bad case of target panic.

The same thing happened to the 2 other trad shooters there competeting in my class. One of them even dropped out because he had got TP so bad by the 3rd. day. There is something to say for going to your first competition that involves shooting in line with 200 other shooters shooting at the same time and 1000's of people in bleachers and chairs watching you. I had no idea what I was preparing for...but I do now ;)

!5 yrds. for seniors??? If they want to make it fair for you and everyone else, they should be putting you at 30yrds. ;)

Ray ;)

[Desert Archer]

"Seriously though...yes, there is a barebow class and yes, I did shoot in it."

That being the case, I'll have to think about going. Vegas is close enough I can drive up there. Wonder what that goober compound shooter was talking about???

As for making me shoot at 30 yards, you have a false impression of my skills. Those 275s were on my patio, with nobody watching and no pressure. My scores drop like a rock in competition, just like everybody else. (LOL)

Dave

[swampy]

Awesome shootin there DA :highfive: I haven,t shot much lately and it looks like I need ta jump back in the game.
I know whatcha mean about shootin in front of a couple hundred others LOL it,s amazing what it does to a first timers score.... :sbrug: ....

[Desert Archer]

...it,s amazing what it does to a first timers score...

It can let the wind out of the sails of a second, third and fourth timer too!

Dave

[BLACK WOLF]

DA,

Ahhhh...man...did you have to tell me that...I was looking forward to beating it next year...OK...so the 5th. times the charm ;)

Ray ;)

[Hornseeker]

I am looking forward to shooting the 300 a bunch this spring and summer. YOu guys have set the bar up pretty high!! Looking forward to bringing up the rear and nippin on your heals a bit!

Dang Dave, that is awesome, even if it was rare, those 275's dont come easy. My PB is a pair of 262's, but I've never shot in the 250's!!! Ouch... 235-240 is probably my serious avg...not counting the days I just pluck away and shoot a 125...

By the way...whats with all the "banned" guys? Hows that work??

Ernie

[barking mad]

Encouraged by all the good people here, I decided to give the 300 round a try today. This was my first ever, shot outdoors. I scored 224.

The set-up: Black Bear Warf, 63" bow length, 44#@31", t300 rest and plunger. Full length Carbon Tech Cheetah 400's, 125 gr field points and three 4" feathers. Total arrow weight 388 gr. Three under, middle finger at the corner of the mouth.

I'll be shooting the 300 round a lot more from now on. As DA, and many others stated, what a great way to work on your consistency. Both mentally and physically. Anytime there's a scorecard present, my mind just overloads and I start creating all manner of twitches and shakes. I'll keep working on it.:)

-bm.

[42WLA]

You guys have inspired me too. I just came in from the backyard after shooting my first 300 round.

I shot a 223 3-X.

I was using 30" 2018 Tru-flites w/145 grn points from my 1985 Kramer 70" 56#@28" Howard Hill Big Five.

[barking mad]

Shot 241 a couple of days ago. I reckon there's still some hope for me...

-bm.

[Jaeger]

I shot a 246 today which is my personal best. I couldn't tell you the last time I broke a 220! I even shot an extra 15 shots and they were all in there.
I'm pretty pleased with myself! :D

[Albertakid]

Great shooting!!

I found it really easy to increase my score by 20 points from the begining it is the last few points that are hard to come by I have been averageing 260, but the 270-280 scores are hard to come by!!!! Funny how the paper will jump the string every once in awhile!!!

Jordan

[DRT]

finally breaking out of the 220's and starting to shoot in the 230's. Shot a 231 last night . been in the low 230's the last few times. Now if I could only stop those few high lefts when I lift my bow shoulder and get my palm into the grip :(

[barking mad]

Well now,

tried my best today. Despite the nice weather and good company, I failed to rise up to the occasion. An even 230.

Fun was had, and perhaps even a few lessons learned. All good.

-bm.

[barking mad]

Testing a new batch of Lightspeeds, shot 257 today. Perhaps my back tension exercises are actually working..

-bm.

[Desert Archer]

Well done. Most consider 240 as a real milestone for barebow shooting. Not only topping 250 but coming close to 260 is a real accomplishment.

Dave

[KennyH]

Just won 1st place in trad at our clubs 300 tourney today. Shot a 238 with 8 x's. My best round to date is 246, and I am really working on getting into the 250s.

[chicken29]

One of the best ways to work on form.:2cents:

[barebow52]

In preparation for the Midatlantic championships I have been shooting a little more. My last four rounds: 259,253,254,257

[bbaker]

Proud to say barebow52 is from my home town!

[Bowbender Mike]

In preparation for the Midatlantic championships I have been shooting a little more. My last four rounds: 259,253,254,257

All the best to you in your competition, let us know how it goes.

[Ranger B]

I am shooting mid Atlantics but I will be shooting in Va. Best of luck to you. Oh are you speaking of NFAA or NAA?

[barebow52]

Ranger. Its NFAA. Our club is one of the host clubs in VA. Although I'm not quite on the level of you and Paul; I have pulled my average up and have been shooting in the 250's consistently. Good luck to you.

[Ranger B]

Barebow52 do we know each other?

[barebow52]

Ranger

We've never met,but we did talk a little over on trad gang about the VA state shoot

[bows'n'roses]

Shot blue/white round yesterday at Cinnamon Creek Archery north of Fort Worth, Texas. 231/7X. Our next NFAA will be Southern Sectionals mid-March.

You guys going to Louisville? My husband and I will be there. He shoots MSMFS and I shoot SFTRAD. Hope to see ya'll there.

[canshooter]

I shot a 259 with 10 x's in the Ontario championships for second place with my barebow, I then shot a 243 with 7 x's with my longbow and also took second in that division.

[Ranger B]

Bows n roses I will be there and we will have about 20 shooters from VA there. Two strong females shooters in our group shooting trad. See you there.

[bows'n'roses]

Ranger B. That's great news about so many TRAD shooters coming to Louisville, especially the ladies. Thanks for telling me. Curtis and I will be shooting B Line. We look forward to meeting ya'll.

[barebow52]

Shot a personal best today 264, then backed it up with a 254 lol!

[57hop]

So, I thought I 'd report my scores for the 300 league in Tully NY:
(I'm the only recurve on the line Monday nights so there are only the few guys that aren't counting X's to compare with)
Week 1: 62 70 68 = 200 Haven't competed for 4 years ; It shows!
Week 2: 87 79 81 = 247 Amazing what a bit of practice and some technique drills will do for you!
Week 3: 83 84 89 = 256 Best game ever (89). Pobably a PR 300 round also!

[Bowbender Mike]

That's a pretty good bump! 260 next week?

[Ranger B]

Great work 57hop

[57hop]

Up for week three!

[Grantmac]

269 15x today. My POI kept moving down the target and when I got home I realized my tied-on nock was moving up the string.
I'm hoping to shoot consistent +275 in practice this season, then hopefully I can keep my State shoots inside 10 points of there.

-Grant

[Ranger B]

278 16x last night

[barebow52]

First practice round for 2012. 241 5x's

[Bowbender Mike]

265 12X this week

[DRT]

Where do you shoot in Tully ? My daughter goes to SUNY Cortland .

[Broken Arrow 7]

Well I thought I'ld chase the dream as well,

Shot a 274 with a:
Bob Gordon BB Warf riser using WWex longs being 48#@28 w/ my draw about 53#.
Shooting Easton Full Bore full length w/200 grns up front for a 502 grn arrow.
Can't shoot the big spot due to arrow damage so I've been shooting the 5-spot.

Would have been higher but hit outside the blue with 2 arrows, man that hurts...

My aiming method is simple; Whatever Works...
Ryan

[Ranger B]

Shot 3 ends this morning 143 11x, 140 6x - 283 17x then a 141 12x

Good practice this morning before work.

[barebow52]

2nd practice round 247 8x's

[57hop]

Week 1: 62 70 68 = 200 Haven't competed for 4 years ; It shows!
Week 2: 87 79 81 = 247 Amazing what a bit of practice and some technique drills will do!
Week 3: 83 84 89 = 256 Best game ever (89). Pobably a PR 300 round also!
Week 4: 89 88 86 = 263 New PR! 10x and 5 "3s"

Barebow recurve; Navajo limbs on Xi compound riser 50#, Satellite Bronze carbons arrows

[graysquirrel]

Good shooting, nice improvement, just keep going in that direction

[Bowbender Mike]

263 16X last night.

[rsarns]

We are getting ready to switch over from Vegas to Blueface... so now that the State Championship is over, I have shot a few rounds of practice. Shot a 280 16X, which was just below my personal best, and my last was a 276 11X, and its time to change over from the 2712's, as Ranger B mentioned to me on another site. I had 3 broken nocks in those 2 rounds, and way too many points lost to arrows slapping out. Trying out a few different arrows, 2312's seem a little weak at full length, and have some CXL 150's that I am going to try out. I want to get as close to point on as possible. WIth the 2712's and 300 gr tips I was holding at the 3/4 line.... I want to put that tip on the bottom of the 5 ring...

[Ranger B]

That's strong shooting. With my anchor it took 300 gr. points with the CXL 150x but they are there now.

[rsarns]

That's strong shooting. With my anchor it took 300 gr. points with the CXL 150x but they are there now.

My average last year was mid 260's in league, hope to add a few points to that this year. Would like to head into the Nationals with a mid 270's average, which would be nice in the Seniors... last year was my first trip there, and shot below my average and do not want to do that again.

[gitnbetr]

Man, it has been longer than I thought!

I finally decided to have dmerrill make me some strings and got them ordered yesterday. Last night I shot with what I have been able to find of my kit. The string I have been using to get back in shape gives me a 10 1/2" BH on a 72" bow. The points gave me 145 gr on 2 arrows, 200 gr on 2 arrows and 250 gr on 1 arrow. So as I was just working on form and strength, there were some 5-spot targets up and I couldn't resist the urge to see if I would be able to shoot 60 arrows for score. I didn't realize until I got back to the hotel that I had not scored the 5-spot correctly, giving myself a 3 for any hit in the outer blue ring. Yes, it's been a long time, indeed.
With 5 misses, and I don't know how many mis-scored 3s, I shot a 238-10. To make myself feel better, I am believing that it would have been in the low 260s on a one spot. We'll see just how much I'm fooling myself after Darryl sends my new strings and I get retuned.

The lowest score on a 5-spot is 4, isn't it?:)

[Ranger B]

I shot my new Best - Moon today. Shot the round barebow, crawling the string. I got it all on video which I'll post later but I shot a personal best 292 22x

[Locomo]

Jimmy, Thats shooting!.

All Good,
Don;

[rsarns]

Great shooting Jimmy!

[Ranger B]

LOL - I counted wrong 291

[Bowbender Mike]

272 16X yesterday

[barebow52]

Shot a personal best 269 in practice

[Grantmac]

Blah 260 at league last night. I took a few weeks off series practice after the state multi-color competition and it shows. I couldn't seem to get the arrows to group on the left side of the target, I felt I had my tune 100% but perhaps not.

-Grant

[rsarns]

Didn't shoot in league last night, but in practice today shot a 285 13X! SHot a 99/92/94... pretty happy with that! FLetched up full length CXL 150's and experimented with different weight tips... got to 300 gr tips and my point on was the 4 line... was almost like shooting with a sight. Hope I can keep that up!

[57hop]

Week 1: 62 70 68 = 200 Haven't competed for 4 years ; It shows!
Week 2: 87 79 81 = 247 Amazing what a bit of practice and some technique drills will do!
Week 3: 83 84 89 = 256 Best game ever (89). Probably a PR 300 round also!
Week 4: 89 88 86 = 263 Another PR! 10x, and 5 "3s"
Week 5: 87 78 88 = 253
I fell apart with a 44332 first end of game 2, but finished with a XXX55 (would been 5X if all a 1/4" lower) - Hope for next week!

Barebow recurve; 3 under, Navajo limbs on Xi compound riser 50#, Satellite Bronze carbons arrows

[rsarns]

Practice today... 94/92/93 279 15X. Filmed myself a couple ends with my cell phone... found an issue with my form. Everything is good through the release, and then my head pops up... peeking. Stayed and worked on blank bale shooting to fix it... not sure when I started doing it, but was consistent through all 5 shots on the end. Amazing what you can see filming yourself.

[Grantmac]

I got my wisdom teeth pulled yesterday morning and I finally felt able to shoot this afternoon. Still on codine so I had to beg a ride to the range.
Shot a PB though: 284 22X and then shot a Vegas 3-spot 276 7x. Really happy with both of those.
Its funny but when you are really on that 5-ring looks about twice its normal size, or that might have been the drugs ;)

-Grant

[kenn1320]

Shot my second round ever and scored 213. Im over bowed, cant wait to get some lighter limbs.

[57hop]

Week 1: 62 70 68 = 200 Haven't competed for 4 years ; It shows!
Week 2: 87 79 81 = 247 Amazing what a bit of practice and some technique drills will do!
Week 3: 83 84 89 = 256 Best game ever (89). Probably a PR 300 round also!
Week 4: 89 88 86 = 263 Another PR! 10x, and 5 "3s"
Week 5: 87 78 88 = 253 finished with a XXX55 (would been 5X if all a 1/4" lower)
Week 6: 82 86 87 = 255 I played with "gap shooting"
Week 7: 83 85 87 = 255 New setup; flipper & plunger.
Week 8: 72 82 87 = 241 had to get new string; screwed up tune and I was late, so no warmup

Barebow recurve; 3 under, Navajo II limbs on Xi Keller riser 50#, 30" Satellite Bronze carbons w/125gr

[rsarns]

Shot a 273 19X in league last night, started good struggled in the middle and shot the last 2 ends only dropping 1 point as the pressure was on... I did shoot 2 good ends, 25 4x and a 25 3X.

In practice yesterday morning shot a 277 17X and then a 290 with my compound FSL (fingers).... even though the league was 8 hours later, not a good idea of shooting that much on league nights, I did the same thing Monday at my other league... just can't seem to take a day off from practice.

[Grantmac]

283 20X today. Really settling into my tune nicely now, I haven't had the urge to change anything the last few outings. It seems being set-up to hold just below the white works best for me. Also I'm at a negative tiller and that seems to shoot best, weird.

-Grant

[rsarns]

Must have just missed you there today... shot a 277 19X... pretty good but struggled a bit on a few ends... Broke a nock and bent the bulldog collar.... :-(

[Grantmac]

282 15x today. Just couldn't leave well enough alone and did a little tweeking, ended-up back at nearly the same set-up as before. This I need to give myself a day off though, focus drifted and I shot my one 3 of the round on the last end. Would have made for a 98 point game otherwise.

-Grant

[Grantmac]

Took a long time to find my groove today:
93 7x
92 7x
then:
99 10x

Single best game and PB overall with 284 24x. Still fiddling with tune and getting things even more figured out.

-Grant

[rsarns]

Since I didn't get to practice yesterday, went tonight and shot 2 rounds... 279 20X and finished with a 282 23X... including this $16 mistake.

If my point on was closer to the 5 I'd start shooting the 5 spot.... that was in my last end a 24... shot my next 2 arrows very carefully. Running out of targets and shot a well used one tonight instead of a clean one... time for the club to buy more targets!!!

[Grantmac]

93 6x
99 6x
92 4x

284 16x total, tying my PB for points but well down on X count. Another 99 point game and then some focus issues in the last one when I shot a 21 right off the bat. I didn't shoot any 3s though which is a great confidence booster.

Went on to shoot a 269 6x FITA which is right in with my average.

-Grant

[rsarns]

AFter the field trials and tribulations yesterday... LOL I decided to go to the indoor and shoot also. Just to verify that I did really know how to shoot somewhat. Shot 2 NFAA rounds:

276 18X
280 20X

Then I decided since I still had time to shoot the FITA target... not too good as I got tired and focus waned a bit: 259...

[Grantmac]

Ugh,
274 and 270 today. I think I need to give it a rest and just relax for a day. Shoot some 3D this weekend and forget about indoor for a little bit.

[rsarns]

279 20 with the Bernardini... played with the compound fingers bow last night and shot 35 points worse than my avg with the recurve..LOL

[arrowwood]

Which Bernardini models are you guys shooting, Nilos? Just curious.

The state NFAA is at my club (and three others) so I signed up and gave it a shot - 248 5x. I was hoping for better (doesn't everybody?) like around 260, but there are more lines this weekend (it's the better of two scores). I always shoot better after an hour or so, but I don't know how I can squeeze in some warm-up shooting while they're shooting their scores.

[rsarns]

nilo's...

[arrowwood]

The old GM T/D4 feels heavy sometimes, aiming for five shot ends. I wondered if the Nilo is any lighter but I guess not:
Nilo --------- 1.220 Kg
Moon --------- 1.300 Kg
Hoyt GM T/D4 - 1.165 Kg

Shot 243 10X today. Better eat my Wheaties™.

[Grantmac]

Try shooting the Nilo full of weights like Ren has it, or a Spig 650 Club.
Its part of the reason I'm shoot a BB compound right now: to build shoulder strength.

-Grant

[rsarns]

I have 3 150 Gram weights and the top weight is 75 Grams. The riser with nothing on it (rest, plunger weight set) is 1220 Grams.... Then when I decide to shoot it in the FSLR/L class I throw on the 33" ACE Stab with 5 ounces and the Vbars + 2 ounces each... it makes my old Hoyt Protec feel light.. but it is without a doubt the most stable riser I have shot.

[arrowwood]

Gee wiz, I just noticed you have your bows posted in your signature under your posts... lol...duh.

I got a big kick out of this on AT:
oooh there it is.. nope.. there it is ... ahhhh thats close enough.... release..... dang it... should have let down
The riser weight and stability tradeoffs with fatigue versus aiming are a new ballgame for me - I should get out the wooden target recurve again and see how that works.

[rsarns]

Gee wiz, I just noticed you have your bows posted in your signature under your posts... lol...duh.

I got a big kick out of this on AT:

The riser weight and stability tradeoffs with fatigue versus aiming are a new ballgame for me - I should get out the wooden target recurve again and see how that works.

LOL... Yep I still battle the "Thats close" mentality... not sure why I cannot just let down and start over. I even now practice letting down, just to try to engraine in my brain that it is not a bad thing.

Yes the stability vs fatigue factor is important, I had to strengthen my bow arm to accomodate the heavier riser. I still practice 2 days a week with stabs and weights for just endurance and strength, also use the elastic bands I got from Physical therapy quite a bit to strengthen my shoulder. I also make sure I shoot the top target first....

[57hop]

Week 1: 62 70 68 = 200 Haven't competed for 4 years ; It shows!
Week 2: 87 79 81 = 247 Amazing what a bit of practice and some technique drills will do!
Week 3: 83 84 89 = 256 Best game ever (89). Probably a PR 300 round also!
Week 4: 89 88 86 = 263 Another PR! 10x, and 5 "3s"
Week 5: 87 78 88 = 253 finished with a XXX55 (would been 5X if all a 1/4" lower)
Week 6: 82 86 87 = 255 I played with "gap shooting"
Week 7: 83 85 87 = 255 New setup: Took off Muzzy fish hook added flipper & plunger.
Week 8: 72 82 87 = 241 New string; screwed up tune. And I was late, so no warmup
Week 9: 87 92 87 = 266 PR! 12X Cheetah 25/40 100gr. Went totally POA; bottom of blue

Barebow recurve; 3 under, Navajo II limbs on Xi Keller riser 50#,
Arrow: 30" Satellite Bronze carbons w/125gr
Week 9: 32" Cheetah 25/40 100 gr.

[rsarns]

277 20X in practice tonight. 95/90/92 Tried starting on the bottom vice the top... my
2nd half suffered........

[rsarns]

283 26X 95/93/95 today in practice...personal high on X count.

[Grantmac]

282 20x this morning. Getting a better hold and letting things float. Now I just need to get it ingrained before Saturday.

-Grant

[Matt_Potter]

GREAT SHOOTING guys - how did the shoot go??

Matt

[Grantmac]

Really tough first day with a 268 14X.
Then managed to bring things together for a 282 14X yesterday. Shot good scores but no Xs until the 5th end which is why the X count is so low. Still may be a State 1 day record though.
I believe Ren set a new 1 and 2 day record.

-Grant

[Matt_Potter]

Congrats to both of you guys - 282 is scarey good.

Matt

[Grantmac]

Thanks Matt. I've shot above 280 in practice by myself many times but I've never been able to do it with anyone watching. It was pretty special to be able to find whatever it took during State.

-Grant

[rsarns]

Told you that extra 150 Grams in the riser would help...LOL Good shooting, hopefully both our scores stand up and we bring both State titles to Whidbey. Just like the Vegas MC State shoot! Just wish I had felt better, might have set the Senior record where it should be... LOL

[rsarns]

Grant, unofficial results are up... we both won and set the new State records (they are unofficial though, till he gets all the cards)....

[Locomo]

Grant + Ren,

Big Atta Boy!. :-)

All Good,
Don;

[rsarns]

278 22X today in practice, changed to pin nocks, seem to work ok.

[rsarns]

Did some tuning, BH and plunger had been fighting the 1/2 inch rights... and shot a 283 27X. 95/96/92 Good evening of practice. Shot 4 25 ends one was a 5X. Personal high on X count.

[Grantmac]

That is smoking Ren!

[kenn1320]

Grant, unofficial results are up... we both won and set the new State records (they are unofficial though, till he gets all the cards)....

Way to get it done, Congrats to both of you! :highfive:

[57hop]

Re: NFAA 300 round

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Week 1: 62 70 68 = 200 Haven't competed for 4 years ; It shows!
Week 2: 87 79 81 = 247 Amazing what a bit of practice and some technique drills will do!
Week 3: 83 84 89 = 256 Best game ever (89). Probably a PR 300 round also!
Week 4: 89 88 86 = 263 Another PR! 10x, and 5 "3s"
Week 5: 87 78 88 = 253 finished with a XXX55 (would been 5X if all a 1/4" lower)
Week 6: 82 86 87 = 255 I played with "gap shooting"
Week 7: 83 85 87 = 255 New setup: Took off Muzzy fish hook added flipper & plunger.
Week 8: 72 82 87 = 241 New string; screwed up tune. And I was late, so no warmup
Week 9: 87 92 87 = 266 PR! 12X Cheetah 25/40 100gr. Used POA; bottom of blue
Wk 10: 77 91 94 = 262 Warmed up well then bombed the first game
Wk 11: Disaster - Navajo top limb blew up- joining the riser that cracked 3 years ago...
Wk 11: 77 74 82 = 233 Make up W/ Greatree 17" ILF -Gonna be tuning up a BB Warf that my buddy has, Real Soon!

Barebow recurve; 3 under, Navajo II limbs on Xi Keller riser 50#,
Arrow: 30" Satellite Bronze carbons w/125gr
Week 9: 32" Cheetah 25/40 100 gr.

[rsarns]

Tried using a finger sling.... yikes.. 267 ... decided to shoot after league again without it, 280 25X. I guess the finger sling experiment was a failure... LOL

[rsarns]

277 19 X and 280 26 X yesterday in practice, today was a 278 23X. For fun shot the Vegas face also, not nearly as good... 268 6X.... I hate that target!