Building High-End limbs

[gagge]

I wonder how hard it can be to build a copy of let's say Hoyt's G3 limbs?

The problem is the foam! Do we need the foam really? Thats just a temp. question and it's really hard to find. So...

I just ordered a Hoyt Gamemaster but I know I want to change the limbs to high-end ILF limbs but hoyt only make
their limbs up to #50 and Win&Win to #44. I want to have about 60-65 in my bow.

Have you guys ever tested to build limbs with just glass and carbon?
If I use the materials in this order:

Glass
Carbon
Glass
Glass
Carbon
Glass
Carbon
Glass

I use pretty thin laminates of course.. This will give me a pair of limbs in the 60-65 range I suppose.

But will this limbs preform any good? Is it gonna be smooth? Hand-shock? :sbrug:
Do I have to test or have some of you guys tested this combination before?

//gagge

[thisbucks4u]

Gagge,
Hoyts version of High performance is not mine. In my experience there isnt a lot of benefit to goin with foam core. I dont shoot fita, and those I know that do are successful with every variety out there.
Foam is stable, but it is also very heavy. more so that maple. To up speed, if thats your version of high performance, I would lighten the physical weight of the working section of the limbs.

What I think would be very interesting would be bamboo core limbs.

I think that if a guy knew what he was doin and made a carbon boo cor limb he would be VERY happy with its performance.

JMHO.

[gagge]

High performance for me is a stable, smooth and fast limb at the same time.. speed isn't everything... stability is most important...

[thisbucks4u]

If stability is your goal, then Just get some maple/carbon limbs. Only time in the past 20 years that fita scores have improved was when easton come out with the A/C/E barreled shafts.

If I may, what type of shooting are these limbs for?

[gagge]

I'm going to use these limbs for hunting and 3D shootings...

The problem with A/C/E shafts is the price...

[thisbucks4u]

For hunting and 3D, I really dont know if you would ever see a difference between the a good set of carbon maples and the foam core limbs. If you have the opportunity Id try out the bamboo core and maybe throw in a cross weave carbon laminate for extra stability.
I wasnt really reccomending the A/C/E's, It was just an example to show you how much "stability" has been used as a selling point than as a real world benefit.

[Larry Hatfield]

a guy this spring showed me a longbow that he said was the fastest trad bow ever made because he put so much carbon in the limbs.
the bow was so sweptwing it was difficult to string and almost impossible to draw without reversing in your hand.
he also stated that the great thing about the bow was that it was the same draw weight from 26" on out.
this example shows that too much of a good thing is not always desireable.
in all the testing i have done there is a measurable, but small, difference in almost all common limb cores.
the hoyt design is the most copied form in archery. it is quick, smooth, and stable with most materials.
if i were going to try a multi lam core i think it would be glass, bamboo, hard maple, bamboo and glass.
i don't think a combination like that would disappoint you.
good luck!

[Bob Gordon]

I have or had and have shot on my warfers just about every Olympic limb made and let me tell you all once again that for the type of archery we do, hunting, serious 3-D or just backyard stuff you do not need a pair of $600. top of the line Oly type limbs. The low dollar or mid priced ones are just fine, we are not going to the Olympic's after all. The rise in scores at the archery Olympic's over the last few years is not do to the limbs but to advancement in arrow and fletch design. A world class Olympic archer would still be a world class archer even if he was shooting some old 25 year old maple/glass yellowed limbs on his modern FITA riser, his speed would be down a little but the arrows are where it really is at for that game. I have several sets of state of the art carbon/foam limbs and I don't see eneugh inprovement in them over 15 year old carbon/maple limbs to justify the cost. My fastest and most comfortable limbs to shoot are some 15 year old Sky Conquest wood/maple Oly limbs. I have built more than a few pair of limbs in my time but I wouldn't even consider trying to invent a better mousetrap of a limb that the present Oly limbs on the market. I can't even begin to imagine how much R&D and money has gone into those great limbs, but it's always fun to "think outside the box" once and awhile...warf

[BLACK WOLF]

My Native American brothers also felt the same way. They put far more importance into the arrow than they did the bow.

Ray ;)

[gagge]

But what about Binghams Superaction Core Laminations? That sounds great to me?

or is it just crap?

is they fast? light?

[thisbucks4u]

Super action is basically laminated maple. They are good. Look for the action boo. Thats laminated bamboo. Supposedly when you laminate bamboo, it makes it consistant, but I just think its cheaper for them to make laminations out of bamboo flooring than individual stalks. Either way, they are good stuff.