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tuffshot
03-23-2005, 09:16 AM
Gentlemen,

Several broadheads have been discussed and everyone has their personal prefferance. One that I have not heard anyone discuss is the broadhead made by Byron Ferguson. I was wondering if anyone has tried them, and what are your comments.

Here is a link: http://www.byronferguson.com/gear_broadhead.htm

thisbucks4u
03-23-2005, 10:03 AM
Man that thing looks just like a simmons, with a little width taken off. Id say that if it hold and edge and manufacturing on it was held to tight tolerances, it would have to kill something.

I am glad you posted that link. I had no idea Ol Byron was the "Master of the Longbow". LMAO.

Bob Gordon
03-23-2005, 11:47 AM
My opinion...Don't like the price, don't like the hard to sharpen shape, don't like the weight, and I think it would be illegal is many states that require the broad head to have a straight back part of the blade to the shaft, it could be classified as a barbed broadhead in some states due to the large gap where the back does not meet the arrow shaft, no thanks....warf

Larry Hatfield
03-23-2005, 11:56 AM
like bob, the first thing i dislike is the price! as for that design, different variations have been around since the fifties and none have been a "good" head as far as my likes and dislikes are concerned.
i have an old ace express that has killed several elk, a few deer, and a bunch of bear, and it's still straight, (with help from my anvil), and still in sharp working order.
i don't think you could do that with his point. does'nt appear strong enough.

swampy
03-23-2005, 12:17 PM
Think those ones are expensive check out these http://www.german-kinetics.com/html/english.html

Their probably worth the price figureing how their made but they are up there

I,m thinkin about makin my own someday but they will be very very expensive LOL solid 440ss version of the snuffer 1 1/4" dia

tuffshot
03-23-2005, 12:26 PM
I agree they are too pricey for just one head. Also I would have to change arrows and tuning of my bow to shoot a 175 grain head. One could cut off the barbs in the back and shorten the point by 1/4 inch +or- and retaper the blades and it might not be too bad...

:sbrug: :)

Cato
03-23-2005, 12:47 PM
I'm almost certain that is a Simmons head, made for Fefguson. I do recall that he used to shoot heads made by Jerry Simmons.

I can't say much about the head. But Jerry Simmons has probably killed over 300 whitetails with a bow, from what I've read about him. That doesn't necessarily make him anything but older than a lot of guys, and more blood thirsty. But he has had a lot of expericence with his heads on deer.

He also makes several head that are smaller and lighter. But they all have that concave shape. I'd be a little concerned about how easy or hard it might be to get them razor sharpe.

Lane Puckett
04-13-2005, 07:58 AM
In his book Becomming the Arrow I'm sure he said the Simmons head was his favorite and this one looks just like it.

what everyone else said.

For me there are really two criteria that a head has to satisfy first.

That I can get them so sharp they scare me to handle them and they fly perfect. After that I'll separate out the rest of the heads based upon toughness, etc.

James Wrenn
04-13-2005, 03:03 PM
I used the Simmons for the last two years.It is harder to sharpen than a lot of heads but I have no complaints at all about the way it worked.I shoot less than 50lb bows drawing 27" and have shot 4 deer and got 8 big holes.A couple of the shots were what others might call "less than perfect" ;) but I ate them just fine.One was a 25yd shot that hit brisket on the way out.The intercepter still made it through with a hole you could stick a pack of cigarettes through. :) I shot one at almost dark between the shoulder blades and all I saw was a shower of sparks that almost blinded me.It went through so fast that it hit a rock pile the other side hard enough it looked like sparklers. :lol: The point did bend but was easy to straighten.A lot of guys I know love them for hogs and that is what I had them for but I could not hunt pigs last year or this one either.The fergusion head is just narrowed down some from the regular intercepter and has pretty gold writeing on it.

RianHorn
11-04-2006, 03:35 AM
German-kinetics is a great big game head, and expensive, but if you made the expense to hunt big, go all the way.(not great for avarage stuff, the stuff i shoot


I have never hunted big or with stuff that screw in/on, so i like to look at them in shops.

The SimmonsBheads, offers amazing big cut-diameter, and they fly 100% if you "chune" them ok. In South Africa (i'm not going to mention the name) the top longbow-hunter, i know, use them. And his results speak for themselves.

I have shot them but don't like them i like the idear of them, would love to shoot/hunt them, but my head just cannot exept them...

Ferguson, made them a little better to understand in form, but at that price? (he must be one hell of a shooter, to ask that mutch!)

r

elkdreamer
11-04-2006, 04:51 AM
byron's signature simmons interceptor for the byron buffs out there........want to try one.......just buy the interceptor.......probably the most devastating two blade head on the market.....unless you try their tree shark.......i killed a doe the other night with a tree shark and hit her a little high full in the shoulder blade........wack.....that two inch broadhead blew through the shoulder blade and stopped on the inside of her opposite front leg bone......not the shot i wanted and the first time i have ever not had a simmons passthrough on a pile of deer taken with them.......but the first branch she hit with that arrow shaft ................i used the interceptor for years as a two blade....played with the tree shark and am now trying the interceptor as a two blade with bleeders.........two of those and two of the 160 landsharks with bleeders in the quiver........only because this time of the year i follow them into the marshes down here chasing the rut and with headhigh frag grass......every drop helps..........that broadhead design simply unzips anything you put it in like no other broadhead i've ever shot.........including......the ww's and the snuffer.....and the big mags.......

unless one is sharpening challenged....putting an air cutting edge on them is no big deal.......and simmons sells a wheelie sharpener that is nothing short of awesome with these heads......finish them off with a round diamond file or simple use a chainsaw file to do the whole job........there's a very very large cult of world class trad bowhunters out there shooting a ton of big game world wide ........that will use nothing but the big simmons heads.....i know...dead is dead.......go ahead and use what ever ......but one day try the simmons design.........james and i have been telling you for a long time now..............b