How Many Carbon Arrow Manufacturers we have

[Torsten]

At least Easton and Beman seem to share a few.

What about PSE, Carbon Express, Gold Tip, Carbon Tech.....

Any help is appreciated

[Scooter]

Torsten,

There is a bunch. Besides the ones you listed I can think of Carbon Express, Vapor, Arrow Dynamics and Alaska Bowhunting (grizilly sticks), I'm sure there are some more too.

My main gripe is all of them use a different numbering system for spine stiffness :mad: . Genaraly speaking the spine charts are worthless for stickbows and your left to trial and error to find a shaft. I wish they would all use the same deflection ratings as Easton. If I knew my bow liked a .400 deflection then I could just pick whichever .400 shaft I liked best. :2cents:

My gripe for the week.

[Desert Archer]

Not sure what your question is (still on my first cup of coffee this morning) but think of Easton and Beman as the same kind of relationship as General Motors and Chevy.

I think PSE gets their carbons from some one else but I don't know who.

On the subject of carbon arrow shafts, there is a discussion over on ArcheryTalk in which our own Limbwalker talks about how inconsistant "spine" is for many carbon arrow shafts. By his own testing Easton (and by association Beman) have the most consistant/uniform spine. He claims, and I am inclined to believe him, that spine is more important to good arrow flight than weight or straightness.

Point being, finding cheep carbon arrows may not be the good deal people think it is...certainly not if you are going to be serious about tuning those shafts/arrows to you bow.

Dave

[Scooter]

I've not tested them on a spine tester (don't own one). But in my shooting it seems that the Vapor's and carbon express shafts are pretty good. I agree Easton is probably leading the pack. They usually do. I've noticed none of the arrow makers guarentee spine. Some do for weight and straightness, but not spine. I aslo agree the cheapy shafts are probably a crap shoot for spine especially form one dozen to the next.

[the other DWS]

Like anything else in this game, Arrow mfg is in a constant state of flux with mergers, splits, new companies coming in, and some folding their tents. There is a lot of private lableing done and it appears probable now that a lot of "offshore" production is entering the market. It probably boils down to 3 or 4 actual major maufacturers and everyone else is marketing and packaging their range of products to meet specific niches.

I seem to recall (and may be completely in error on this--its a vague memory) that one of the threads on the old tradtalk site had a chart or comparison that someone worked up for comparing the different carbons, seems like it was a year or so ago---and by now the data is probably at least partially out of date

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[Floxter]

Here's one chart. You may have to cut & paste to get it to work.

www.huntersfriend.com/arrowhelp/arrow-selection-6.htm

[Scooter]

The chart doesn't show the true spine just the spine number the mfg uses. Example as an Easton arrow gets stiffer it's number gets smaller to match the defelection number. As a Carbon Express gets stiffer the number gets bigger. Big difference between an easton 400 arrow and a carbon express 400 arrow. Oh I'm so confused. :help:

[Torsten]

Scooter,
this is exactly the rason why mfg's are using opposite and unclear classifications: they want you to avoid changing the supplier. Uncertainty is easy to control and to make you believe the new xxx model is even better.

[the other DWS]

Examining the parts pack that just came with my new SSTs from Cabelas I note that the epoxy packet is marked "Easton HIT" identical to the epoxy packet that comes with the Axix shafts. there is a warning/customer disclaimer slip with the shafts. I havn't bothered to call the number--but it's dollars to donuts that it is also eastons. I conclude that the Cabelas SST shafts are the olderstyle Easton PC shafts private labled for Cabelas--and who knows who else. these are the extra-skinney outsert style linier-aligned shafts. I can't imagine abandoning a production equipment line if the product is still marketable to someone. I have never k=lid hands or eyes on the Easton "redline" shafts. What are they like----skinney linier-aligned fibre too??

[Stick'em]

Ahh...the beauty of aluminum. Sure they bend, but they are cheap and very straight.