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[sticshooter]

About this!!!!....................<><

You're right, it's only in the perverted interpretations and relying so much on the anti-Christ Paul that it seems that way.


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there arent any homosexual animals that i have ever seen


Your ignorance is not the issue here. Who said they would produce? I just said there are homosexual animals, there are even some species that prefer homosexual relationships and only use heterosexual sex to reproduce.
You're the one who threw in that it is against nature, obviously it is not. If you would bother to research it would become just as obvious to you too.

sticshooter supplied you with Paul's hair length reqs. It has nothing to do with Jesus, who most likely had long hair because he wasn't ever from Nazareth, but more likely a Nazarite or at least taught in the Nazarite ways. In the least, it was not an issue for Jesus. It was an issue for Paul, Paul teaches what Paul wants, not the gospel of Jesus.

Paul also teaches celibacy, yet Jesus was referred to as Rabbi, meaning he had to be married.

Paul was described as being fat and bald. There's your reasons for celibacy and short hair. Not an issue for Jesus, but an issue for Paul.

Paul's writings are given higher credence than James', yet James being Jesus' brother probably was closer to the real teachings of Jesus.
Paul: a man is JUSTIFIED by FAITH apart from WORKS of the law. (romans 3:28)
James: by WORKS a man is JUSTIFIED, and not by FAITH only. (james 2:24)

It is not Jesus who says to throw out Jewish law (laws of Moses), it is Paul, Jesus says to follow them and adds to them.
Jesus: Matt. 5:18-19: "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
Paul: Romans 3:19-21: "Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law [is] the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets"

Jesus taught to pray in private.
Paul is the one the evangelicals always look to in order to justify their ways.

Jesus walked with the sinners.
Paul tells followers to not keep company with sinners. (1cor 5:11)

Jesus teaches to feed the poor. matt 25:31-46
Paul teaches to let them starve 2thes 3:10

Paul was for slavery and was used by the south to defend slavery.

Jesus is not anti-woman in any of his acts or words.
Paul is very much anti-woman.

The ONLY passages in the NT about homosexuals are from Paul. Jesus never said a word condemning them, judging from the other sinners he walked with, he wouldn't have. Convenient that the Paul who is used to go against gays is the same one who claims the OT is no longer to be followed. Conveneint that you don't have to follow the food laws but you have no problem preaching the homosexual laws that are from the same OT book.

So who does this modern Christian religion follow, Jesus or Paul? It seems to be Paul, not Jesus.
Now you know why I see modern Christianity as the anti-Christ. It was said "in your day" and he was talking to the people living then and it happened.
It wouldn't be a great deception if the guy came up wearing a red cape and horns.

[sticshooter]

Since you give a message from Paul to claim that it's not Paul who said to have short hair but Jesus who claimed that, I can clearly see what influence you are under.
I'm sure you could do just as well "picking apart" everything and I'm also sure the others in that religion would eat it up.
And I'm sure you can easily convince those followers of Paul that anyone who doesn't believe him but rather believes what Jesus are the evil ones.
As I have been saying all along, the answers are all in there if you'd only bother to open your eyes.

As for any "Christian hating reply". I don't hate you because you got sucked in by the Anti-Christ. I think a lot of bad things about your ability to reason for yourself but I don't hate you, I actually feel sorry for you.
I don't spiritually attack you to have some outside power force you to come to my way of thinking, even tough I'm sure that power is there and able. I don't try to pass laws making you illegal. I don't claim you are a second class citizen. I would even hang out with you.
I just feel sorry for you.

Paul said: "For in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the Gospel. Therefore I beseech you, be imitators of me." 1 Corinthians 4:15-16

Remember, imitate Paul, not Jesus. It's not Jesus who has begotten you, it's Paul.

Yes I have been a Christian, supersonic. How do you guess I know all this stuff about that anti-Christ religion? I am much more happy in my present religion. I don't need to be around the hate that gets spewed out by the majority in your religion. Thanks anyway.
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[sticshooter]

OK I got this off another website.I am kinda in a state of awe!Never heard or seen anything like this before.I posted it here because I know alot of Christians post here and wanted some of your thoughts on this.thanks<><

[Garry]

Please post the link to the website.

[Cato]

Stick,

First of all, in the future, when you post something like this, please make it clear at the beginning of the thread what you are doing. For a moment, I couldn't tell if you were having a confrontation with someone on this forum, or what. :)

I am on my way to church, and have not been able to read it in full. I'll try to get to it tonight. But if this person is alledging that Paul and Jesus were at odds, and that Paul had a differing adgenda, it is he who is sadly deceived.

Cato

[Cato]

Stick, can you give us some backround for how this conversation occurred, and what generated the repsonse?

The writer is obviously not a true believer, discrediting the Apostle Paul. Paul was embraced by all of the other apostles (other than Judas). Even Peter refers to Paul's letters as inspired. Anybody that would seek to discredit Paul, is either delussioned, and antagonist, or something along those lines.

I'm not sure a blow by blow effort to address his comments are even worthwhile, in my opinion.

Cato

[sticshooter]

Cato, it was a thread on canada and the gays be allowed to marry there.This guy is a strange one to say the least.He does get me fired up I can tell ya that.<>< .......Here's another reply fgrom him...Just like a good cult member, ignore the writings of the one who is supposed to be God for the one who was the enemy, never met the one who was God and didn't convert until his people had killed God. Follow the one who's writings go against the one who is God, good plan.

It's pretty stupid of you to think that anyone in this country doesn't know Christians. But then again, you're probably the type who thinks you have to go around witnessing to show that you're the better Christian than the one you are witnessing to.

The Taliban comment makes sense, you just don't want to open your eyes and see it (pull the log out of your eye and stop worrying about the splinter in someone else's eye).
You even say what the point is but still refuse to see it because you are a hateful extremist just like the Taliban.


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I need to follow Paul's remeinder


No, you need to start following Jesus and stop following the Roman anti-Christ. It's the fact that you don't rely on "His" word that you are an extremist, you make up whatever suits your desire

[Cato]

I wouldn't waiste my time on this guy. Satan is using him to create havoc and misinformation. Anbody that calls Paul the anti Christ is a real nut and being so dishonest with the Scripture he won't likely reason with you.

Very sad.

Cato

[sticshooter]

Thanks cato I already knew that.But just wanted to see what others thought.I never heard that one before and was a liottle surprised by it.<><

[BLACK WOLF]

It's sad...some people will often come up the most outlandish lies just to cause arguement.

Cato and you are unfortunatley right on about this guy.

Ray ;)

[Garry]

Paul and the other 11 deciples will reign with Jesus when he sets up his kingdom on earth and they will make up 12 of the 24 elders. That's what I think.