Gamemaster Arrow Choice

[Stick'em]

What arrows are you guys shooting out of your Hoyt Gamemasters? I'm shooting XX75 2016's, but I'm connsidering carbons.

[Viper]

Stick 'em -

And the draw weight, would be?
What draw lenght, and arrow lenght.

Viper out.

[Stick'em]

50lb @ 28" - 30" arrow w/ 125gr. tip

[Viper]

Stick -

If you're drawing 28" - 29" 1916s, if you're drawing 29" - 30" 2016s.

Yes, there's a grey area in the middle. Also that bow is cut pretty far past center, so there's going to be tuning differnces no matter what you do.

BTW - I don't own one, but have set up several for others.

Viper out.

[Str8 Shooter]

I own two Gamemasters, 50# and 55#. I pull close to 28 3/4 or just a fuzz less. Out of the 55# bow I shoot Axis 400's with 200 gr tips 29" NTBP.

The 50# bow I'm still messing with. I can shoot the Axis 400's at 30" with the same tips, Arrow Dynamics Trad Lights 28 3/4" with 100 gr. tips (too short for hunting arrows), 30" 2216's for NFAA spot shooting with 125 gr. tips. I shoot off an elevated rest with this bow and it allows for adjustments to tune an arrow perfectly. Personally, I papertune all of my bows to match arrows and fine tune it on the range. Remember, everyones form is a little different and what works for one may not work for another.

Chris

[twin rivers]

I'm shooting 1918 out of 45# cut to 28" with 145gr. You might want to check the weight as I think they are pulling more than what they are marked. So you might be shooting more like 52 to 54 pounds.

[Spike]

50# limbs drawn 28.75" shot 2016 29" long with 125gr point. 45# limbs drawn 28.75 3-18 accs 29.75" long 82 gr point.

[Scooter]

Mine is 50#@28" I'm shooting vaper 3000's 29" w/125gr tips.

[muddy udders]

Great question I have been meaning to ask this one.
I have a 50#@28" GM and am wanting to shoot 125 grain tips. I believe my draw is around 26.5" with this bow and was wondering what arrow I should start with to do my tuning.

Since I am new to doing it right(I usually just bought what the store had) and poor I don't want to buy a bunch of arrows that I will have to learn to shoot akward to make them work.

[Viper]

muddy -

Try 1916's, cut to 27.5 or 28". You'll have to tune the rest out to allow for enough deflection from center.

Think yoiu'll like it.

Viper out.

[Bill McNeal]

I shoot 30" 2018 Easton aluminums with 125gr heads out of my 45# gamemaster, and my draw lenth is only 27.5" We need to remember that the GM shelf is cut way past center, therefore it needs a stiff arrow to perform properly. You cannot gauge arrow spine by comparing the GM to bows of equal weight.

Shalom!

[Stick'em]

Well....I landed on 2016 Easton Legacy's with a 100gr. tip.

[Viper]

Stick -

Glad it works for ya.

Bill -

If you're shooting 30" 2018 out of a #44 @ 27.5 inch bow, really think you're throwing a lot of performance out the window. If it works for you, great, but the fact that the GM is cut past center is because it's basically Hoyt's compound riser, and those bows are designed to be center shot, due to the release aid. Using something like a NAP Centershot rest, you can tune it to normal parameters. If you think it's quick now, you'll be surprised how fast that bow can be with 1916s cut to 28.5". I've tuned a few GMs, and yes you can tune a 2018 to come out straight, but beyond 15 yds, it takes a toll.

Just food for though, and yes you will have to retune the bow to shoot the thinner, softer shafts.

Viper out.

[Bill McNeal]

Stick -

Glad it works for ya.

Bill -

If you're shooting 30" 2018 out of a #44 @ 27.5 inch bow, really think you're throwing a lot of performance out the window. If it works for you, great, but the fact that the GM is cut past center is because it's basically Hoyt's compound riser, and those bows are designed to be center shot, due to the release aid. Using something like a NAP Centershot rest, you can tune it to normal parameters. If you think it's quick now, you'll be surprised how fast that bow can be with 1916s cut to 28.5". I've tuned a few GMs, and yes you can tune a 2018 to come out straight, but beyond 15 yds, it takes a toll.

Just food for though, and yes you will have to retune the bow to shoot the thinner, softer shafts.

Viper out.

Viper, I am sure I could pick up speed, but being a bowhunter I have little concern for speed, and a great concern for quiet. The 2018's give me all the performance I need for whitetails, plus shooting a heavy arrow is also easier on a bows limbs, so I am also increasing the life span of my bow. As for distance and accuracy......This year my GM performed flawlessly on a 160# buck shot at 27 yards with a 2018, and a doe taken at 25 yards.

[Viper]

Bill -

As I said to Stick 'em, if you're happy with it fine. The heavy arrow may be quieter, but proper tuning should be able to keep the bow just as quiet with the right arrow. As for extending the life span of the bow, true, if you're using drastically under weight arrows. A 1916 is heavy enough for a #45 bow. Most of my bows are from the the 1960s and 1970. And all were/are used with the right arrows, not light, not heavy, but optimal for the bows. Trying to protect the limbs by using overweight arrows, make about as much logic as using heavy arrows for better penetration.

I'm sure it worked well on your deer, and if it gives you more confidence in your shooting, great, keep doing it! Just understand what the facts really are, and base your choices on that. BTW - if you decide to go with your gut feelings, that's great too, as long as it's a conscious decision, not not based on some misconception, or what "a guy at the range told you". Heck, I have a few dozen 2219's I could get to work out of most of my bows, but why?

Anywho, just exchanging opinions :highfive: .

Viper out.