Interesting Read

[Sewer Rat]

Read this today..... Very interesting on his view of the compound vs trad

http://www.realtree.com/community/newsletterDetail.php?s=20070918/living-legend.html


{{Compounds vs Traditional TackleKnow Your Range
If you’re shooting a recurve, know your maximum shooting range. For most hunters it’s about 20 yards. At distances beyond that, arcing comes into play, meaning an archer may have to aim 6 to 8 inches high at distances of around 30 yards. This is definitely a difficult task when a whitetail approaches and time to make an assessment is short.

Arrow Speed
An arrow travels slower on a recurve. For example, if the bow has a draw weight of 60 pounds, it releases an arrow at 180 feet per second. But arrows flying from a compound will reach 305 feet per second. At a distance of 30 yards, arrows coming from a recurve are rapidly losing speed, as well as dropping.

Clean Lanes, Please
Recurve archers should cut shooting lanes. Because an arrow propelled from a recurve travels at a slower speed, and therefore follows a more arched flight path, the arrow is more likely to be deflected if it kisses a stick or limb.

Shooting Muscles
Recurves are harder to shoot because they require a shooter to hold full poundage as he aims. For example, a 50-pound recurve bow exerts 50 pounds on fingers at full draw, whereas a 50-pound compound bow only exerts 17 to 25 pounds on fingers. Nonetheless, skillful archers who practice with regularity can shoot a recurve bow every bit as well as a compound. The key is keeping fingers tough and shooting muscles in shape.

Instinct
One of archery’s greatest rewards? Shooting a recurve or longbow instinctively. The feeling achieved when you draw your bow, look only at a spot, release and the arrow disappears in your target, almost feels like magic. To make that perfect shot, your concentration must coordinate hand, eye and mind.

Training Your Mind
Practice more than 5 or 6 yards at a quarter size target. Anchor at the corner of your mouth. Use only one anchor point for all distances. Any deviation will destroy your subconscious sight picture. Anytime you draw an arrow and visualize the arrow in your sight picture, let down and begin your draw again. Train your mind to look at your target, not only the whole target but also the center of the center of the target. Cone angle your vision so all you see is an imaginary center. As you practice, the center becomes larger and more distinct. }}

[42WLA]

One strange thing on his bio. It says he was in the Marine Corps and in the next sentance he was a crew chief on a B-52 bomber. HHHMMMMM Marines had B-52s....?

[Papabull]

If you’re shooting a recurve, know your maximum shooting range. For most hunters it’s about 20 yards. At distances beyond that, arcing comes into play, meaning an archer may have to aim 6 to 8 inches high at distances of around 30 yards.

Well, you don't have to read any farther than that to find out this fellow doesn't have a good fundamental understanding of ballistics as they pertain to tradtional archery. Unless he's shooting something in the vicinity of 250 fps, an arrow drops a heck of a lot more than 6-8 inches between 20 and 30 yards. In fact, "arcing" comes into play from the time the arrow leaves the bow and shooting at a deer that's 10 yards away like he's 20 yards away will result in a clean miss right over his back. That happens a lot for guys who only practice at 20 yards and then patiently wait and get that 10 yard shot in the woods.

[waterone]

I read the article, it seemed to be completely at odds with an interview that Mr. Jeffery gave to Traditional Bwhunter some ten years ago. I skimmed the article in the mag late last night and seemed as if there are two different people. For example, the TB article stated that Jeffery worked for Hoyt. Also he built a LOT of bows for Shakespeare, too.

Also, Jeffery was one of those during the 50's and 60's that shot in many target competitons.

Also, I have been able to witness a lot of compounds that supposedly shoot 300+ fps with hunting tackle - haven't seen one yet.

Wonder who might have actually said what?

waterone

[Allen]

It would be my guess that Mr Jeffery isn't the source for the Compound vs. Traditional part of the article. It's probably the writer of the story.

I have one of his bows and it is very sweet shooting. The guy that built this bow knows a lot more about archery than whoever wrote the comparison.

Allen

[patterson]

I live in the same city as the Jeffreys(Columbia SC) and have frequented his shop for many many years. Mostly I go to just spend time with Owen and listen to his stories...a master at telling them.

Almost 30 years ago, he was putting on a demonstration at The Palmetto Sportsman's Classic in Columbia. I Watched him shoot a number of arrows at a large balloon that Tom, his son, was holding. Each arrow resulted in a "pop" but Tom was still holding the balloon as the arrow hit the target butt behind him. Then I noticed the balloon continued to get smaller with each arrow Owen shot. I don't know how many balloons were blown up inside each other but Owen was popping the outside balloon each time and peeling them off, one by one.

It was then I knew I wanted to be part of this thing called archery. Afterwards, I learned Tom made it through round after round of Olympic Archery qualifying (at it's reintroduction into the Olympics in the early 70's). He ended as the 9th or 10th ranked archer in the US and they only took the top 8. Also, I learned Owen was commissioned by the French government to teach their archers how to shoot.

[Allen]

Patterson,

Is Mr Jeffery still around?

He must be getting up there in age.

Thanks,
Allen

[patterson]

He is still around and making bows. When not making bows, he's hunting with them. That twinkle is still in his eyes. I haven't seen him in 8 or nine months but I'm assuming he's still good.